Coming to you from the studios at the Illinois Rock and Roll Museum on Route 66. It's the Rock and Roll Chicago podcast Hey everybody, it's Ray the roadie and this is Hollywood Mike Ray, how are you today? I'm wonderful. I got a new car I saw that.

Yeah. Yeah, it's a nice car. Yeah, I needed the old the trans was going on in the old one You want to tell everybody what the new one is or do we want to make sure it's a it's a 2000 2023 Ford Escape Platinum.

All right. It's got so much crap in there. I don't know how to use it You know what and we should probably say it, you know Ford we're looking for sponsors for this We are looking for sponsors Ford.

Yes, and we'd be happy to you know, run some ads for you Yeah, absolutely and talk about this car a little bit more Yeah, but yeah, I'm tell you I was driving the other day in the morning and the front window was fogging up So I'm looking for the front window defroster. I can't find this thing to save my life man It's a laptop screen it is and I'm punching this and I'm punching that I'm changing radio stations I you know, it's crazy, but give me some time I'll learn it people were screaming and yelling and those were just the ones on the sidewalk. That's right Cuz I was on the sidewalk.

Yeah, so I you got something new. Yeah. Well Newton new to me.

Mm-hmm, but old it's a 1997 Dyna lowrider very nice. I saw that my father-in-law nice and The story is it was actually he left it in his will to my nephew Okay, and my nephew was a pro bass fisherman. He wanted nothing to do with the motorcycle So he wanted to sell it and put money down on a new bass boat.

I was like, yeah No, that's not gonna happen that motorcycles not gonna leave the family so I gave him the money to put down on the on the bass boat nice and I surprised my wife with it because it'd Been sitting in my mother-in-law's garage for jeez. I think the license plate on it says 2008 Wow anybody's ridden it Wow, and I picked it up Came right here with it today. Very nice.

It looks sharp. Looks sharp. Looks like a lot of fun So let's get through this so I can go out and ride.

Okay, let's do this Joining us this evening is primal moon. How you guys doing? Great. Great.

Why don't we go around the table here and you guys introduce yourselves and so people know whose voice is whose yeah So my name is Brian. I'm guitar backing vocals in the band I'm Joe. I'm the singer and lyricist in the band I'm Justin.

I'm rhythm second lead. I am also the plumber I'm Luke. I play bass.

I'm the pipe fitter And my name is Tony I'm the drummer percussion and I'm the I'm the band dad Well, you get better keep these guys in order What's with the plumber and the pipe fitter? He's actually a pipe better he is not a plumber he works at a bank Okay. Well, they have plumbing at banks. Do you do the plumbing anyone? That's a kiss fan will get the reference So, where did this all start Oh Good God I've told this story about a thousand times.

So I'm gonna give it then, you know it I'll give you the spark no version how you get to tell the people in you have listeners in India all over the world So me and Brian and Justin all started a band in high school We played together for a while. Eventually. It was just me and Brian.

Eventually we met up with Luke then it was me and Brian again Apparently you and I are the problem people. Yeah, I'm real sick. We're the Thanks for telling me that on here this this is the this is the central thing Joe and Luke ended up Playing in a band for a while.

Their band was falling apart. So Brian and I said, hey Luke you want to jam again? But we didn't have a singer. So he said hey, you know, I know a guy who was Joe So we started jamming again and the four of us were jamming for like three years.

I think three years, right? Yeah We said, you know, we need another guitar player So we reached out to Justin again said hey come back and let's let's all jam and now we're here Yeah, yeah, and you guys said that when you guys first walked in you said that you had played a little bit at Well, it was called Grubin's at one point, but it's now it's just the uptown. Yeah Yeah, me and Brian and Luke been playing there We were in high school you play there a lot, don't you? Well, I was I used to host that yeah I know you look familiar. I'm like, wait a minute Mike Brown was kind of running the whole thing and and I was just in the house band You know, I was I guess I wasn't the host I was just in the house band But you look most familiar out of all of them and then you walked in and you looked a little bit familiar To me as well.

I wave a sign on a street corner. Is that what you do a band? He's on to you, okay Did you guys ever go into the studio and record an album? That is a great question No, so I have an album cover in my head and I'm thinking I'm associating it with you guys And I and I just can't remember if it is or not Well, we have a couple EPS out. Yeah, we are.

Well, we'll I'll let you talk to we've all done in different bands, too So like you might have seen that as well. Okay, okay. Yeah, gotcha.

Gotcha I'm for some reason I'm picturing an album in my head. I think the album was titled something like saddle up or something Wasn't you guys? Oh, we're taking that name Well, tell us about your music what do you guys what do you guys doing? Yeah, tell us about the music. Yeah, so right now we have been in the process of recording for about 14 15 months just kind of just working on this album We've put out a lot of content during kovat in the time just because we wanted to write we wanted to do something and put Something out there for people to listen to in the time when they couldn't really even see anybody So at least they could hear us so we started to promote a little more in the guerrilla marketing format and Push out as much content as possible.

And now we're recording this last our first full-length album We put out about three EPS and a couple singles beforehand nice nice You guys are younger and you're probably a lot more computer savvy than some of the other guests that we've had on the podcast During kovat. Did you do any of that crazy stuff where you're like playing in your own individual houses as you're quarantining and put it out on the internet and do any of that stuff or was it just recording and mass marketing We didn't do too much of that and for the simple fact of we're a band that's very heavily based on feel We're blues rooted. So like to do that over the internet I don't think we capture the same aura as if we were all in the same room, you know jamming along I don't think it would have worked.

Well, I was gonna say to a huge factor in it So I've been I work in health care. I'm a nurse at the time I was a nurse aide but when when kovat hit and nobody really knew anything about kovat and everybody was Scared for one reason or another understandably. So Everyone was like dude, I don't want to be anywhere near you, you know, cuz I was working I work in the ER So I was in the thick of it through the whole thing So yeah during kovat I feel like I mean there was a good six months that we didn't see each other Yeah, they would get together but you know without me, but I mean understandably so I probably would feel the same But yeah, you know like they said after we um, once we started feeling comfortable getting together again I mean we went hard.

We released the two EPs and then like Joe said now we're working on the album When you're the main songwriters in the band All of us. Yeah, we all write our parts. Okay.

Yeah, but lyrics I've written most of the lyrics except for rivers gonna rise Yeah, definitely our writing style is very unique in the sense of when we write songs it's never Necessarily like one of us will sit down and like structure the whole thing. It'll be like hey, I have a riff Hey, Brian's got a riff. Hey, let's see what we can do with that.

And then we'll just Try and structure something around that we'll sit literally for like two and a half hours and jam. I mean, there's one song That we actually Recorded back in April and we literally came up with it It was just a warm-up when we were in the studio prior to that in the same month We literally came out and we were like, oh, that's a song idea So we literally sat and like two weeks later. We had a full a full song and it's now it's like Stuck to us.

So whoever our best songs and it's one of our best songs What's what song is it? Yeah, it's called wine and dine. It's not out. It'll be on the album.

Okay, we freestyled it in the studio Yeah, I think we did like a 12 or 13 minute version. I think we got it down to about six to seven minutes But we wrote like that one I mean, it's very free form, but it's also like there's certain parts in it that are like my parts Brian parts Certain little things are Specific to the song but like the whole song as a whole. It's just this really loose jam That I don't think before that at least since I've been in the band.

I don't think we've really written maybe river But this one in the studio sounds that songs only has a live version, so it's Like I said, our writing style is very interesting. We really write like like a song like take off That we've recently released as a single. It's very structured.

It's like when you hear it That's exactly for the most part how you hear it live but then you have songs like we have a song called river that was recorded way before I joined and it's like Nine minutes. We've never done it the same and it's no never the same Like 80 bars Sometimes there's like 60 bars if we're cutting time It's crazy. Yeah When you're saying that you guys just happen to come up with this riff and said hey, we got something here It's like I don't know if you knew that carry liver in from Kansas.

Yes. He wrote dust in the wind He was doing finger-picking picking exercises at home. Just messing around his wife said hey That sounds like it could be a song and that came out to be dust in the wind Every every musician has a story Like that like life in the fast lane by the Eagles That was literally a finger warm-up exercise that Joe Walsh was doing and somebody walks in and says that's the next song The first song we actually released was broke man, and we all wrote that at a open mic What was the open mic in store hailstorm brewing? Oh, yeah Like in Rome Villa Park or something like that.

It's in Lee Tinley. Oh Tinley. Oh, okay.

Okay. Yeah, so broke man We just wrote it real quick right there Up at our turn and then we a couple months later. We won this little Competition at Purdue for Battle of the Bands.

Well, I mean, I wouldn't call it a win. There were only two bands. Yeah There Was a Battle of the Bands competition at Purdue University, yeah and only two bands show Bands is plural to is yeah, it was their satellite campus Is that what it was it was like Purdue Northwest or something Say we like two or three years before that remember you me and Tony We were in an old group and we played that same battle the bands.

I think there was three or four and we got disqualified We were I think it was something with the sound guy didn't like us or something We were too loud or something like that. It probably was like Back to the Future. They held up a sign Yeah, I'm sorry guys.

You're just too darn loud They gave you no reason for it there goes like no you're out of here. They were just like yeah No, we're not even good Like when they announced like first place so-and-so second place so-and-so third place so-and-so good night We're like, well, no fourth place. All right we've had the cops called to our shows for being too loud and Like five shows in the past two years Wow, yeah, we've it's kind of nuts.

Are you guys really that loud? I'd say in like a like a more organic sense, though. We're just our music is just That is that is the that is the most poetic way I've ever heard anybody say that we are too damn loud. Yes I'm mostly the problem He starts it he starts I like high wattage amplifiers for headroom and no guitar players out there and bass players No, we all just try to amp it up.

So we all get louder. Yeah It's it's funny because last night I Hosted the jam at the studio that I told you about and I got there late because my band had a gig we were in Montgomery and I get there around 945 and there's this group of kids that I mean when I say kids they looked Now I'm old I mean they could have been 18 or 19 when I swear to God they look 12 or 13 to me and and I know they Were young because they were like we got to get up there. We got to play because we have to go to school tomorrow Yeah, and I walked in and it was so loud I have never heard anything so loud in the in the studio like this before my life I couldn't even hear my own voice as I shouted it was so loud I mean, I think I could speak for Tony and Luke really that we've gotten a lot of life lessons from Mike Brown and the You know the crew at the uptown so But dynamics, he told me my voice was too loud Every time we played the studio and never failed I got yelled at by somebody for hitting too loud never fail I mean it stuck with me.

I don't play as loud, but Universal tell me tell me if you've seen this look before when he looks over the glasses, and he does this We're not laughing at you Mike we're laughing near you Now we love Mike man, you're gonna hear a knock at the door in a couple minutes That's right True story about Mike Brown since we bad-mouthed them true story about Mike Mike Brown I've been in bands for four years I had you know pop rock heavy metal country all kinds of stuff and when I I guess was about 10 15 years ago or so I I turned 40 years old and I said nobody wants to see a 40 year old standing there But they're playing Green Day, nor do I want to stand up here and play Green Day anymore I said I'm done with this. I'm gonna go back to my roots I want to learn some blues and I put together a three-piece band and I said let's go road test this you know this Garbage right so we went to uptown Went to Grubin's and there's Mike Brown, and he says okay go up on stage right and Mike Brown gave me my first gig basically ever Playing the blues plainly guitar in the whole bit now. I'll forever be grateful For for him providing me with a stage, and I literally knew him for about three months And he says hey guess what we need a house.

You know guitarist I said yeah, he goes you're it There was no asking it just goes you're it That's awesome. You know I was that's how I ended up working in the house band at Grubin's all because of heck Yeah, Mike, but you know what I was thinking is you guys said that you guys are blues based, right? That that's what I do. I'm a I've been in rock bands, but I tell everybody I'm a blues guitarist a fake rock and roll right and you hear me play you always hear the blues I don't care if I'm covering.

I don't care if I'm covering an Aussie song. I play solo It's gonna sound like you're gonna hear the blues in it, right? Are you loud out of necessity meaning since you're like a blues band you using a tube amp you know? You're looking for that right tone, and you know you got to have that right volume to get that tone out of that amp Absolutely, so it's situational right so like you know if we're playing more of like a rock orientated set like a usual repertoire Yeah, we're gonna. Go we're gonna go hard, and we're gonna be loud It's just part of the feel the aura of it But if we're playing a blue set say like uptown or some other venue like that where it's more intimate smaller crowd You don't want to blow their ears off.

Yeah now since we're older more mature musicians We have the ability to be a chameleon and you know shapeshift into something That's more dynamic focus and that's so hard so much hard-hitting, but yes going back to the guitar example like you have a tube amp Yeah, I mean you got to hear the power amps come through like you got to turn up just the right amount to get that Nice crunch, I don't I don't want you know 50 pedals in front of me Nope I want to hear that natural amp sound because that is the most pure and best sign you can get out of a tube Amplifier say that again that is the most pure and best sign and get out of a tube amplifier. What would you say? It's true no it is absolutely we all use two bands Yeah Yes, right right right, so I use it to Mike sorry no, I don't I don't so you get when you guys don't own a mic I don't You're the singer you're on a mic I do on a mic and we I don't him on the spot So what do you do what what do you do? If you're a singer, and you don't own a mic they mostly use mics that we have okay, man, which writes Tony's So it's like what you bring the PA and you bring his mic Form is that how it goes. Yeah.

He just helps me carry my stuff. You know It's a very good roadie. I can say that oh, yeah, I do help I do the helps But yeah I've been looking at a wireless mic that I'm actually getting ready to buy because I tend to run around quite a bit What you tend to tend to is just a runner right yeah, you just you just you don't tend to anything I have severe ADHD You're listening to the rock and roll Chicago podcast So so I want to go back to this because this is kind of like hot on the plate right now This is the we have a we have a lot of young people that show up to a lot of the jams in the area which is really cool right and You know they ask a lot about gear, and I've always said that there I would love to do just like a gear session You know and have everybody just sit and talk you know talk about it right so as a blues based band I'm curious as to You know back up your statement.

Okay, so what's your amp? What's your guitar? What's your pedal board if anything? What do you have yeah, so I have a lot of amps. I kind of have a problem but Yeah, 1977 music man 210 RD it's 100 watts hybrid amp Tube in the power section when I play through that thing I do have a pedal board maybe about like seven pedals the only one I keep on the entire time is a It's like a Klan replica of wave audio just for an extra boost if I can't jack the volume in a smaller setting Otherwise, I'll just turn on a lot here and there some delay here and there for the song That's all they really do and then Les Paul strats telly's I'm favoring ES 335. I just got recently so it's kind of kind of my rig yeah Yeah, well a 100 watt tube amp though.

Yeah, I could see where that might contribute to the fact a little loud It has a half power option 50 watts then yeah, I've been on the half power option. Yeah, well, I can totally see how that contributes. Yeah Is a champ I of course it is yeah, I I've recently discovered the magic of it Man Absolute bar none.

I actually played in a metal band about 20 years ago And the guy had a Mesa 412 cabinet, and he drove that cabinet with a champ Amazing I swear I swear that champ driving that 410 cabinet sound like he had a he was plugged into a plexi That's sounded fantastic really did man. That's awesome really who are the other guitar players most Justin what do you have? What are you doing? So my setups very similar to Brian's a little bit more. I guess you would it would you say focused? I don't buy nearly as much as him, but he's gotten me on a bit of a role My two main hurting his bank account He buys his stuff Sometimes yeah Amplifier wise I use a Mesa Express 50.

It's a 50 watt I also have a Mesa f50 which is essentially the arm Express, but in a stack form with 4 by 12 cab Guitar wise well, and I also use a fender blues jr. I use use that smaller places, but it's a great I'm telling you that amp is like I've got that amp It's literally like the secret like a secret website, it's crazy you get for a little lamp like that yeah unbelievable I'll tell you I got very lucky with the blues jr. I found one for like 300 bucks used secondhand and I happen to know one of the best amp guys in the state of Illinois, and I I brought it to him and He opens up the amp takes the chassis out in the whole bit And he goes now don't touch anything inside in there he goes in fact sit on your hands I got to go to the bathroom, so I was sitting my hands And we comes back the thing is turned on it's plugged in and everything And I'm just playing through this thing and he's adjusting all the little pots and everything while I'm playing And boosting everything internally because they won't do that for you from the factory It's you know it's set the way fenders are gonna write it, and then he put a than the speaker. That's in it I Think it's a red eminence or something like that, so it's a it's a red aluminum framed Speaker, which is not anything else yeah All you have to do is plug a guitar into this amp it sounds So unbelievable and the other thing that he did is he put the the mid-range EQ Before The the overdrive of the amp which is a feature that you find on dumbbell amps Yeah, so now when you plug this thing in and just use the volume knob on your guitar I swear to God the thing sounds like a lightly driven Overdrive special you gotta send me this guy's information now I won't I won't mention it live on the podcast He's actually been on the podcast, but I'll guarantee you've met him and you've played with him Especially if you've gone to the uptown there you go Yeah And then in terms of guitars I play a black Gibson SG Then I have a Gibson Les Paul classic that one has p90s in it It's more of a studio guitar, but I'll break it out live once in a while 2021 tele telecaster it's an open G a la Keith Richards We do a lot of stuff in the open G tuning so and then I just bought a 70s It's a 20 year old 70s reissue BC rich I don't say the name of it on air because I don't know how you guys feel about swearing But it's yeah, it's it's a BC rich, bitch Oh, yeah, a natural colored very like Joe Perry ish, so I was like I have to have that so that's I plan I'm debuting that one live very soon But I guess I'm a little more punky than Brian is so I like my distortion pedals But I don't like to push it too much to where it sounds super compressed. I am so disappointed you guys didn't bring instruments Okay, I kind of ran in here, but my acoustics in the car Go get it did anybody else bring something Be our man, let's pause we'll talk to yeah Hi, I'm Rick Anthony I'd like to thank my radio brothers Ray the roadie and Hollywood Mike for allowing me to tell you about my podcast The someone you should know podcast We spotlight musicians authors and interesting people and we like to say we're making a difference one artist at a time The podcast is heard twice a week on Mondays and Thursdays And you could check it out on your favorite streaming platforms and on the web at someone you should know podcast.com That's the someone you should know podcast with me Rick Anthony making a difference one artist at a time I'm Christy from crime cave podcast I've had a huge interest in true crime since my days of watching marathons of snapped back in the mid 90s I needed an outlet to talk about the cases that have haunted me for a very long time With each episode under 20 minutes.

I shine a light on some of the most bizarre cases in the last 50 years Join me in the crime cave I Already what you guys gonna play for us Which one do you want to do? I would either say Lazy Sunday prone to wander or crumbling What do you guys Know we'll do this. You need the capo. Yeah.

Okay, so we'll do crumbling. Okay, okay Yeah, we'll try it that way didn't wait. Yeah, I think Yeah, the acoustic EP isn't standard, huh? Yeah.

Yeah, I think it was insane. Yep Have You It's crumbling it's crumbling It's crumbling, it's crumbling, it's crumbling Every leader is all up for themselves Everyone taking and giving no help Our hearts are all locked in a cage We are filled with unholy rage It's crumbling, it's crumbling, it's crumbling How do we get out from all that we've done? How do we get out with our finger on the gun? How do we get out from all that we've done? How do we get out with our finger on the gun? Every leader is forgotten respect Nobody's learned how to live in love yet Our hearts are all prone to neglect All going down is heaven's rejects That was really good, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're too loud. No.

I told you. No, that was, that was awesome, that was fantastic. That, uh, that was almost Ronnie James Diover brought it in there.

Yeah, yeah, that's what I was thinking, yeah. Yeah, excellent. What was that called again? Crumbling.

Crumbling. The acoustic and the electric. Why is he all of a sudden talking so loud? Crumbling! Crumbling! Yeah.

So, so we, we can't find that online somewhere then? It's not one that's in the making? It's on Spotify. It's on Spotify. It was a version and there's a regular version.

Nice. We got both versions up there on Spotify. There's an acoustic EP we did.

We just wanted to see what we could do in four hours, so we just threw those songs together. Right. You could definitely tell, like, we just kind of whipped it together, but I mean, that was the best acoustic song on there, I would say.

Okay, okay. And there's nothing wrong with doing that. There's kind of a trend that's coming back around again where people want to hear the mistakes in the recordings, you know? Yeah.

You know? People are pushing away from the auto-tune and the whole thing. Record analog. Yeah, right.

Word. Right, and it's expensive, though. Holy crap, it's expensive.

We haven't even done it yet because it's so expensive. Oh, geez. Me and Joe have only done it once.

The last time, gosh, the last time I recorded, I'm not going to remember how much it was, but we said, you know, we're going to do it completely analog, and we did the whole thing on a Hitari reel-to-reel tape machine. And we paid something like 450 bucks a reel. It was, yeah.

Oh, my gosh. A reel. Wow.

Yeah. It wasn't cheap. How many reels did you go through? I can't even remember.

It was like 450. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we didn't even record an entire album.

I mean, I think we did like a half dozen songs maybe at the most, and we had an older guy in the band that's like, oh, we have to do an analog, we've got to do a tape, and we've got to do tape. And I was like, wow, okay, whatever. Let me get the credit card out.

All right. So when you guys are out gigging, you got enough material for a whole show? Oh, yeah. You don't do any coverage or nothing? We can, but we don't really.

We tend to only do a few. Okay. The two that we lean towards most, one we play at every show, it's Johnny B. Good.

They played it at every show since their first show. Okay. So we're going to play it even though people are sick of it.

The fun part is it tends to close on a high note every time. We end up with it. That is the one song.

That is the one song where if you play it, nobody cares. Yeah. You know what? But if you play something like Free Bird or Mustang Sally or Tennessee Whiskey, if you're crying out loud.

Oh, God, I've heard it so much. There's always somebody in the crowd that's like, oh, my God, they're playing Free Bird, or oh, my God, they're playing Sweet Home Alabama, and some people are going to give you shit for it. But Johnny B. Good is the one song where you play it.

Everybody's like, okay, yeah, go ahead. It's essentially the template. It is.

It's the template for like from when that song came out, it's the template for all popular contemporary music up until now pretty much. It pretty much is. And also because we're still kind of on that teetering where we're still mainly a local band, you're always playing to new people.

So some people, they have no idea what any of your songs are. And while they may make an impression on them, they'll always remember, oh, that's the band that played Johnny B. Good at the end of the set. So they'll remember it some way.

I just played it three times in one weekend. We also do another one that's played a lot in the blues scene going down. Oh, yeah, yeah, of course, of course.

So when you guys do play, when we talk about a full night, I mean, you guys have enough original music for like three one-hour sets or what kind of a night are we talking about? Or are you splitting the night? I'd say we have two, two hours. About two hours. We have two hours of originals that are fully done that we like to perform.

Sure, sure. And then we could go a long enough time with covers if we added to it. Honestly, we'd probably just freestyle one and whatever comes up with it, that's probably going to be a song.

We do like to freestyle at shows, because it just, I don't know, that's how we get our creative juices flowing. Yeah, why not? And so I like the format that you guys have. You actually have four instrumentalists and you actually have a singer as a frontman, which is something that people are actually getting away from.

You're seeing the five-person band is kind of going away and it's becoming four-people bands or three people or whatever it is. But I kind of like the format for sure. Is that the way it's always been with you guys or was there ever another time? I mean, we originally started with me, Tony, and Brian, and then Joel came.

Yeah, so then we were around for a bit and then we were always looking for, we had one or two guitarists. We had a couple auditions beforehand. We had a keyboardist at one point.

Yeah, he played a show with us, but none of them just stuck. But Justin, he came to the first practice, like his audition, just fully ready. He had been practicing all of our songs, been looking at our discography intensely, so we were like, oh, hell yeah.

Okay, excellent, excellent. So what kind of plays do you guys play? I mean, we play like wherever people will let us play pretty much. I mean, we just played Cubby Bear.

All right, nice. We were talking about upcoming shows. We're playing at the Roxy in Lockport, right across the street from the studio.

Yeah, I just played there on Saturday night. Have you ever played there before? Never. So Jessica Endress, who's the manager of the place, we actually interviewed her on the podcast a few weeks ago.

Oh, great. She's so fun, yeah. We just played there on Saturday.

If you've never played there before, you're going to have a blast. Oh, that sounds good. It's really cool.

I'm excited. What I like about it is, I mean, if you've never been there, when you walk in, you feel like you've been transported back to the 1920s. It's very cool.

It's an old movie theater, and the original projector is right there when you walk through the front door through the vestibule. It's got the marble floors and incandescent lighting and the whole bit. You feel like we're underdressed.

You feel like you should be wearing a hat and a zoot suit. It's really a cool spot. And I hope you guys do well.

Thank you. It sounds like the music that you guys play is going to be a good fit for that place. Yeah.

So what's coming up next? So we've got, I mean, we've got that. Lords of Loud, actually. There's a band that has kind of challenged us.

They say they're louder than us. So we're taking them down. They are going to hear it, literally.

Their name is Goat Belly. Wait, so the band is called, wait, what's this band called? Goat Belly. Goat Belly.

Oh, okay. So you guys are performing a show that you're entitling Lords of Loud. Showdown.

Showdown. Wow. Oh, yeah.

And it's at Black Dog Vinyl Cafe. I think I'm scared. It's at Black Dog Vinyl Cafe.

Oh, my God. Yeah, that's what I said. We're going to blow this.

We sell earplugs for a dollar in little moon bags. Holy crap. Thank you, ladies.

Yeah. Wow. That place is just wow.

I'll tell you what. I think the folks next door at Dolce Vita are going to have something to say about that. Wow.

When's the date of that? September 8th. All right. What the hell do I have going on in September? I'm going to be at a family wedding in Rhode Island.

I can't be here. Hey, you know what? I might be able to hear them. Yeah, you might be able to hear us.

We're going to have to pay for Mike to get a new window probably in that show. Yeah. Wow.

Amazing. Okay, so that's on September 8th. What do you have coming up after that? September 22nd at the Roxy, which is the one we were talking about.

Okay, that's the 22nd at the Roxy. And then we've also got an acoustic show up in Wonder Lake. I believe it's the 16th of September as well.

Yeah, an acoustic set. Okay, that's cool. That'd probably be more my speed.

I'm getting old. I don't know if I want to hear all the laughs. Even their acoustic show is really loud.

It is. Ear shattering. Everybody's bleeding.

The window was rattling behind me. I thought it was going to come in. How about you guys bring us home with another song? Do you want to just do an improv? Let me get my earplugs on.

Improv? Yeah, I guess let's try it. You know, the funny thing is I thought I was just going to blame the guitar players for why their band is too loud. No, that's not the reason why whatsoever.

Not always. They've got a very powerful singer. They do.

We need the loud amps to keep up with them. Yeah, they need the amps. Price has always been that loud, so it was way before Joe.

It was a match. Then it just got louder. We can probably back this up a little bit.

Yeah, possibly. I'll put it outside. Joe, go on the other side of the room.

Yeah, I'll go in the other room. I'll back this more, actually. All right.

Ready? Lose? No, why not? All right. Bear and Juliet. No, I'm not Gonna go out here Drink this tea Be silly happy again No, that's bull I'm lying I'm telling you I'm out here dying I can't come back Or else I'll get thrown off track But I don't even know I'm going the right way I'm never coming back And y'all have just heard me say Oh, I hurt my pride On all the things But I keep down the right My care I'm gonna be strong And I know We're gonna play Guitar, got a blues Once we pack up and choose We'll never come back again Oh Listen now You thought you had the right mind To somehow come out And talk like that to her But around Them we take Oh, stay along these lines Yes, you do now Play it out Now, I tell you now I'm gonna run away And y'all ain't gonna see me on that day Gonna escape Somewhere you Will never find I'll sit with me Drinking my tea in the light Here's your next song.

Excellent, excellent. You know, I just gotta tell the people out there in podcast land, he was three feet away from that microphone singing. He wasn't even in the mic.

But the soul came from his toes. It did, it did. It came up out of the rug like mushrooms.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, that was fantastic. That was great, man.

The good kind? Yeah, the good kind of mushrooms, yes. So, you know, everybody that's listening is gonna want to know where they can find you. Where can they find you guys? Social media-wise or whatever? We got it all.

Facebook, Instagram, not so much Twitter. But Twitter. Spotify, Apple Music, you know, wherever you listen to music.

That's where we're on. YouTube. Just look for Primal Moon? Primal Moon.

Instagram, at Primal Moon Band. And Twitter. But we don't really use Twitter.

You mean X? Oh, yeah. I forgot. That doesn't tell you anything.

Alrighty, guys. Well, thanks for coming out. You sound really good.

Thanks for having us. Fantastic. Take care.

Appreciate it. Well, there's Primal Moon. I just started doing this outro from three feet out, and you couldn't even hear me.

It was literally an outro. Yeah, well, you couldn't hear nothing. Are we doing it over again? No.

No, we're doing it right now. Okay, and I'm gonna, you know what? I'm gonna start backing away like this as we start doing it. And see, now you're gone.

Now I'm gone. Now you're gone. All right, and I'm back in, so now it's an intro.

That's right. An innie or an outie. I think that young man had a third lung.

I think so. I think so. Man, he could really belt it out.

Holy crap, was that a powerful voice. Yeah, yeah. He literally, I mean, he turned away from the microphone.

He did. Yeah, he was. Like I said, he was three feet away, and you could still hear him.

Wow. Clear as day. I wish they would have brought more instruments in.

It was nice that the guy had a guitar in his trunk. Yeah, glad they had it. Yeah, yeah.

I'd like to go and see these guys. Definitely. They sound very interesting for sure.

Definitely. It was a lot of fun. So make sure you guys get out there and see Primal Moon.

They're out and about all over. They're playing. And thanks for listening to the Rock and Roll Chicago podcast, and we'll see you next week with another exciting episode.

Bye-bye. Hey, everybody. Bob Rowdy's here from Brookwood Drive, along with Mark Miller, Carlos Gonzalez, and Glever Washington.

Check us out next week on episode 154 on the Rock and Roll Chicago podcast. Take a ride on the drive. The Rock and Roll Chicago podcast is edited by Paul Martin, theme song courtesy of MNR Rush.

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