Coming to you from the studios at the Illinois Rock and Roll Museum on Route 66. It's the Rock and Roll Chicago podcast Hey everybody, it's Ray the roadie and it's officially Hollywood Mike officially why officially well It's on our new nifty little shirts, right? We got these nifty new shirts. We've got on Amazon not as long You know, not only do I have my name embroidered on the vest that I wear Motorcycle but now it's officially on a shirt official.

It is really official. You can't you can't get rid of the name anymore You can't change it. We can't become like Anaheim Mike or no.

I don't know. I do not want to be Anaheim I'm Mike. No, nothing like that.

Yeah. No, I got no use for California What I do have use for is I forgot what I was gonna say now But instead of us sitting here chatting about ourselves, which we know we both love to do that Yeah, we can do that very easily. Let's talk to the guys from how rude 90s band.

How rude we've got Gary and Tyler hello. Thanks for having us. Yeah, so did you guys name yourselves after the little girl in full house? We did absolutely not I guess not We kicked around a few names from wait, no, seriously, that's seriously that's where it came from.

Absolutely You're like full house little what was her name Michelle Michelle? Yeah, we struggled probably for a good six months on what name, you know Oh, you know what? It's Stephanie. Stephanie is the how rude Michelle is. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Yeah. Yep We struggle with a few names for quite a while Yeah, just we're like what would be the most iconic if you hear it you think full house 90s, okay Yeah, they'll know right away instead of having to read the finer print on the banner.

That's okay. They do 90s, right? So just try to think of something like that. And that was the one that finally won I think we had a couple other ones as if as if so rad I think Jake suggested the snapbacks.

Yeah. Yeah, we went with we went with how rude with an exclamation point All right, be a little bit different. I'm a little uncomfortable with the fact that I'm sitting here and I Know all of the names of the people on that show.

Mm-hmm, and I know like all the episodes and everything Whoa, I'm just gonna stop that conversation. You know what great show I do too. I watch that show every day when I was a kid My wife's favorite show absolute absolute favorite show now great show that we're getting off track Have you watched the the spin-off thing? That's is it on Netflix or whatever? It's on I tried it like season I tried my wife did I couldn't yeah, you couldn't do it.

I grew out of it I guess it wasn't the same or something like that sucked in pretty quick. I was I was into it There's a nice dose of nostalgia for me. Yeah.

Wow. Wow. Okay I mean, you know eventually we're gonna have we're gonna have video but you're we've got a bunch of guys sitting around a table here With tattoos on our arms and the whole bit and we're talking about full house Yeah, I pretty much didn't watch it.

I like it. No, no, come on. That's fair Right, I mean I saw a few episodes but uncle Jesse imitating Elvis come on Didn't reel me in Wow, well, that's great.

Well, anyways, we didn't want to interrupt but go ahead and continue Let's go with full house and and how rude yeah, we we Wanted something that would hopefully, you know say we don't wear a 90s band right out of the gate with with by the name alone but then We tried to incorporate a lot of that old 90s design in and how we promoted our band the first thing when we first Announced what we were doing. I did a lot of like Old 90s patterns. There's a pattern called the Memphis pattern.

That was like everywhere in the 90s and then that You won't know it by the name. It's called jazz, but it's that it's that pattern that was on every styrofoam cup and and Paperplate in the 90s is like a white plate, but a blue Blue and purple like zigzag across if I were to show you on my phone right now, you'd actually know Everywhere I think Primo's ice cream. Okay.

All right, you know Logo all their cups. Yeah. All right, and then their diners.

I'll pull it up. Sorry I'll show you I gotta show you cuz it's you'll know exactly if you haven't noticed already He not only is he our lead singer and guitarist, but he's also a graphic designer and okay all that stuff. So oh Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, that's on all the coffee cups in the Holiday Inn. So that yeah, but yeah, okay Screams 90s that kind of stuff incorporated in the design of when we rolled out, right? Right to look 90s and you know, I edited the photos in a way that looks like an old Polaroid, you know from the night You're disposable camera from the 90s. So right out of that stuff So was like, you know, why the 90s? Why'd you pick the 90s? Was it were you guys? Why not? Yeah, we grew up on the 90s stuff.

Okay, we didn't really see too many bands doing it He was in a band called louder now And they do a lot of the early 2000s pump pop punk emo type stuff and he's playing with them We're all friends with those guys and you decided you wanted to come do a 90s thing and we'd been talking about that for a While yeah just remember growing up being around, you know between the ages of what 11 and 15 and having your boombox and putting on the radio station And putting your cassette and recording it and having mixtapes and that was all the stuff I first grabbed as my own other than being raised on Beatles and you know stuff from your parents But it was the first thing that was like mine. Yeah, I was like that was you're finding on your own, right? Right. So so what you know people usually will split the 90s into a couple of different types of music You've got to know you've got that That really depressing droning slow sad kind of stuff from the 90s, right? And then you had the end of the hairband era in the 90s Yeah, and then you had like the like the power punk, you know Red hot chili peppers and stuff like that started coming around.

So is it a mixture or is it one type of genre? What are you guys doing? What do you I would say it's a we try to keep it as much of a far-reaching Thing for all the genres of the 90s. We try to touch a little bit of everything. So we've got everything from Backstreet Boys and the boy band stuff to Metallica and Pantera and things like that but also a lot of the That middle of the road kind of like third eye blind gin blossoms ever clear Stuff like a fastball oasis, you know, there's a lot of that stuff in there sugar ray Okay, the majority of it is rock, but we we pick certain songs on purpose to get it in there So right there's something for everybody but songs that songs that are slower and more acoustic and Kind of like the droning slower ones that you were talking about.

We'll try to kind of put our own spin on them So it's not like a note for note cover we'll kind of put our own twist on it and make it more of a rock version like we do a Version of Iris by Goo Goo Dolls, right and it's it's way heavier and faster and rockier But everybody knows what it is and everybody still enjoys that sings along with it You know, they're not like caught off guard or anything like that, right? It's great. I'm right and Tyler you are drummer. You're the drummer.

I'm gonna bring back up your drummer. You are lead singer and guitarist Yep, so who else is in your band? How many people you got? So my little brother plays bass and sings as well Couple couple leads on songs and then a lot of backup vocals and then our buddy Jake plays guitar as well Okay. All right.

So for you guys and each one of you guys can sing It's abatable Tyler's my favorite singer in the band. Okay, so I'm just so I'm just I'm just trying to you know, wrap my head around You know the different genres and the different bands and you know that you guys are covering and you're going from Backstreet Boys to Google Dolls and some other kind of stuff and I'm thinking well You got to have some extra voices in your yeah, and if you guys are doing some Backstreet Boys stuff Yeah, unless you're kind of rocking it out and just saying screw the you know, the harmonies No, we do many harmonies as we can all over the place. I'm always asking I was like, hey, I can do a harmony There he's like it needs to be there then.

Yeah, I was like, but I don't want to overdo it He's like dude, just cover. Yeah, you can never go wrong with adding a harmony as long as you're on key He's and he's this guy could harmonize with a plane crash. He's That's crazy, I don't think I've ever heard that before Screaming in harmony.

Yeah, that's right No, it works out great because there's certain songs we do that are perfect for Gary's voice and there's certain songs We do his brother's our bassist Markie And he has the perfect voice for some of the pop punky stuff in the punk songs that we do So it really works out at practice What's like you want to sing this and I was like now I think you have the better voice for that one So we really so a lot of us, you know, he sings a lot of this stuff But then me and the other guy will take you know, three or four songs depending on what it is Okay, so what what Backstreet Boys song or songs? Do you do? We do I want it that way. Yeah, you do. Yeah Yeah, you know some of these things have come along because you know We've been a band for almost six years now and you always get requests for certain songs, right? And for years it was not in our catalog at all Okay, and then after four years of people requesting that specific song It's like maybe we should actually learn this song right because people really want to hear it so we did it once we kind of messed around with it at a show and It went over huge and then we were just like, all right Well, this is a regular part of the set now, right? Right.

Yeah, we tend to listen to the to the jukebox music before the show Yeah, and after the show because whatever the place is playing and that's what the crowd wants and okay We need to learn this song. Sure. Definitely.

That's a good plan Yeah, and we've even started that we've had so many requests for things that are we were really strict at first like that's not 90s They come up. No, we don't know that's not 90s and now we're just like, okay, they really want to hear mr. Brightside Let's yeah freaking learn it. Yeah, you know what I mean? It's like, okay, it's not 90s, but I don't see anyone complaining when we play it So you got to do it, right, but it totally sounds 90s though.

It does It's got that feel it does. There's a couple that fit into that to like Story of a girl by nine days. Oh, yeah, it's not a 90s song, but technically it's like April 2000 But right, right, it sounds like and we seven about a year or two ago We started doing Stacy's mom because people were non-stop coming up.

Yeah, it's like just play that song Yeah, I mean you got to give it to that to like 2001 right 1989 yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we've relaxed the borders for sure Right, you absolutely have to because there's some there's some spillover Still get people though that will request the Beatles and You know Jesse's girl and stuff like that and Africa Toto, you know, right, right We're not that band, right? I would love to be that band that does, you know a 50-year gap, but Not us.

Yeah, but not those songs Those are two songs. I don't think I need to hear covered anymore No, I mean, I'd love to do some Beatles, but I I don't think I'd do it well enough to Write be embarrassing. So what do you guys think? What what what is it about the music of the 90s that attracts so many people? Because I know man 90s music is hot.

Yeah, it really is. What is it? I think a lot of it for me is the songwriting was just like top-notch. I mean they were just hits Yeah huge hits and not to say there's not hits now But I feel like the hits kind of went as you know The quality quantity of that has kind of just gone down and the ones that are great But man 90s is just like every band had like five hits Yeah that you know to this day Cheryl you think of like even whether you're liking or not like Sugar Ray Yeah, how many hits on each one of those albums that people you could still play it and people would go.

Oh my gosh Yeah, you know finally I think a lot of it for me and for other people is an element of nostalgia I mean we have a lot of people that are Our age that come to shows and we talked to them about You know, I was in elementary school when the song was on I remember hearing and that's how I feel I mean we play these songs every night and then I still Feel the same way as like when I first started playing them six years ago I don't get say I'm not burnt out on these songs. I love hearing But a lot of the people that are coming to our shows There's a good amount of people that are between the ages of like 50 and 65 and when we talk to them They're able to tell us, you know, I was in college when this came out or I was I was here I was doing this. I remember, you know, I just got married and stuff like that So there's a lot of cool nostalgia tied to the specific decade that we're doing It seems that way anyway, right, right Yeah, I hear the wallflowers like one headlight comes on and I'm instantly transported back to the pool Yeah in Orland Park, you know going down the water slide and hearing it up on the and I'm in Vegas I remember I was in Vegas when I started hearing that like all the time.

Yeah It's great. Yeah, you know that was um, that was a song for me as well that Transports me to a bunch of different places and I can never understand why because it's such a simple song It is maybe maybe that's maybe maybe that's it. Yeah What year did that come out that was bringing down the horses at 96 96 or? 97 okay, I think they're 97.

I want to say yeah, so here's this is this is an eerie This is an eerie thing for me and but before this happened that that song had a lot of different meaning for me, but Now when I hear that song the thing that I'm reminded of and this is I'm telling this is eerie so it was just a few months after 9-eleven and I was in st. Louis and There was a bomb scare at the airport in st. Louis I actually I actually flew to st.

Louis because I had to drive to To a couple of you know, a few other cities and yeah, the drive would have been like seven or eight hours So I just flew to st. Louis Spent my work week there, then I drove back to the airport in st. Louis I was gonna fly back home to Chicago Well that at the time there was some kind of bomb scare at the airport and no flights were taken off and I was like You know what? I'm just gonna keep my rental car and I'm gonna drive home and I was still feeling the effects of 9-eleven I was like shit this really sucks.

Yeah, right and as I'm getting on I-55 heading home that song comes on the radio So so now unfortunately whenever I hear that song I'm Not necessarily of 9-eleven. Yeah, but about that about that time afterwards, but it is weird Did that song has such a connection for me? It's strange that you guys said that but the connections That's what makes it fun for me I like when you said the pool when I think of the pool as a kid I think of both semi charm life and Two princes mm-hmm spin doctors Those are always those were like pool songs and then like random one-hit wonders like a land member to steal my sunshine Yeah, that was always on at the pool, right? You know, why why do the spin doctors get such a bad rap nowadays? I don't you know, there's all there's all these stupid jokes and memes about the spin doctors and which are unwarranted They were a fantastic. They were a great band man.

Their guitar player is awesome. And their bass player was just a man Yeah, yeah when you rip that solo and two princes That's a good band. Oh, yeah, they knew what they were doing Yeah, absolutely.

And during the kovat years when they decided to start, you know doing like these little but I think it was the Anniversary of that song so they were all in their own individual houses. Oh really? I did like I did like a podcast And that was fantastic Yeah, I mean they still had the jobs and and I think they're on tour at least playing a few shows now But I don't think the original bass player with the band is I was he not with him anymore has joined them Yeah, I saw them. I was in Disney World with my family and they were playing at Epcot And I happened to be I had no idea.

I'm just walking by had a beer in my hand I was like, this is this is spin doctors like You know, yeah. Yeah, do you guys do you guys play some of the songs? I'm assuming you play a spin doctor so we do to that. We did you print is your princess? I want to get little miss can't be wrong.

Oh, yeah, that's a great great song I mean, well, yeah, you got number one and number two right there I mean, there's so many other songs you could play by them Yeah, I don't know how recognizable that they are because they were kind of an underground band That's the battle is how recognizable is a song you could think it's a great song But are people gonna care is it kind of right flat on the audience, you know? Yeah we all have we all have one card that we can throw down for to play any song and the other guys have to do it And none of us have done it because we've all agreed on all the songs. Yeah. Oh, wow You know good streak Yeah I guess so you could you know You could throw in a sleeper song from one of those big albums and see see how many people react to it But we haven't we haven't done it yet.

Yeah, but if people don't care I mean that's it takes one or two shows to realize that people don't care and then we just cut the song, right? If it's not it's not gonna go over. It's not gonna go over. Oh, yeah, we do the same thing, too It's why invest any more time into it when it's not gonna go over Well, our booking manager told us I remember at the beginning.

He just said whatever you do do not play fly Fly by Lenny Kravitz. Oh, yeah fly away. He said no band.

No band knows how to cover that song accurately No room once we never tried. Yeah, really? Okay, we trust you. No, I was actually an abandoned early 2000s and we did it Yeah, how was it? Yeah, yeah fine.

It went over. Well, you know, well, it's not as difficult See, we gotta do it just to spite him. All right I think so.

Absolutely. Sure. That's a good song.

Yeah this and are you gonna go my way? That that race. Oh, yeah Yeah, no, that's good song too. I've done that a thousand times As well, so what would be the card? You know you threw down your card, what would be the song? Yeah What's the one song everybody else in the band has to do shut up you're doing it.

I Thought of it the other day. No, I'm blanking I don't know that I so I know one that I want to do and I know that nobody's gonna care and I think it Would I think it would not land with an audience, but um Told the wetsprocket all I want. Hmm.

Okay. I love that chorus. Yeah so much There's a chord progression in the chorus.

That's just mint. I'll jump up yours and say Toady's possum underground. That's a good one.

Yeah, I think that's their only song possum But it's a great. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, there's yeah, you could I could think of a bunch of them Yeah, I'm bad on the spot, but maybe I can email you some songs that we would Yeah, no, that's the way it goes whenever somebody tells you to name songs, you know a thousand but you you can't think you want To give their time. Yeah, so who was your who was your favorite guitar player from the 90s? Oh from the 90s I mean, I really like Kevin Caddy giving third-eye blind He's okay got a lot of interesting tones and the way he writes and different tunings and stuff like that it's hard to say from the 90s, but I Would probably still go with my favorite guitar player Steve.

Look at their Toto. Oh, yeah So even even total in the 90s I mean this dude hence the with you would love to play Toto Yes, exactly, yeah, no Luke, you know, he's a He's somebody that I well within like the past five to ten years or so I started learning a little bit more about man. He's had his hands on everything.

He's on everything. Yeah, it's crazy I mean, what was it? He gets called in with who are the two brothers in Toto Carl brothers? Yeah, yeah, these three guys get called in and they're working on the thriller album Yeah for Michael Jackson so cool and as and other albums too at the same time Yeah, all all the while they managed to come up with their own hit album. Yeah, right.

That's crazy at the same time And even like they so human nature was written by Steve Porcaro and Toto and it was a throwaway song They didn't want to use it right gave it to Michael Jackson Great song. Yeah, but it sounds like Toto if you mean if you listen to the song, it sounds like a Toto B-side Oh, absolutely. Yeah, how do you say it? Oh, yeah, of course.

Yeah, it's missing a couple of like like African instruments. Yeah But no, it totally does sound like a total song for sure and and all the work that he did with George Benson blew me Away. Yeah, yeah, he's really he's got his hand in everything.

That's the best way to put it. He's all over the place I hate guys like that It's like oh, here's another hit song. Yeah Just like that See most of them guys don't be don't get their own bands I mean, they're they're studio musician producers writers and that's all they ever do and then they just got together and said hey We put a band together.

Yeah Yeah, as a lot of those guys can walk down the street and not get bothered well, that's it. Yeah. Yeah, right Well, I think he probably well back in the 90s.

You'd reckon, you know, you recognize Luke with that hairdo. Oh, yeah Similar that now it's just wait If it wasn't for Toto you would know who he was, you know, that's true, right? Yeah, that's true It's like in the 60s the Wrecking Crew. Yeah.

Yeah, right. That was every single band out there. Nobody knew that.

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What's the favorite song that you guys play? I mean for me, it's I would say it's probably semi-term life Yeah, just because of the memories tied to it first time I ever heard it's but that's my favorite album of the 90s I never get sick of it We've made jokes that we could play that song if we have a three-hour set we could do it Just through the three hours just play that song over and over again, you know Well never get sick of it people it gets a good response people sing along with it People get excited when it starts when they realize what it is. Yeah, right. So I would that's off the cuff That's probably my answer and no one ever asks the drummer that What's Your favorite song Honestly right now for me it would be man in the box by Alice in Chains.

Yeah, that makes total sense That's a drummer song. He sings it too. And I'll really I'll sing in it.

It's fun. It's a good one You got you know, I'm cut you guys are kind of making me jealous because you've got it Sounds to me like you've got like a band full of lead singers It's really convenient and the harmonies kind of work itself out where Whoever's needed here and there we just happen to do some harmonies. Yeah, and that's the hardest thing, you know Harmonies make or break a band.

Yeah, absolutely You can you can have a you can have an okay band with fantastic harmonies and you've got a fantastic band You can have a fantastic with no harmonies and it's Yeah We spend a good amount of time working on harmonies and practice just sitting down one guitar Really honing in on you know, who's doing what part and how it sounds and yeah, and that takes a discipline in itself There's so many bands that they they don't have they don't work on harmonies Every band should get together if you're gonna rehearse once a week one week. You're working on the music The next week just get together and do a harmonies Great idea. I've always believed in that.

Yeah, and it's a great idea But it's but it's really hard to convince people in a band to do that. Yeah, it seems boring Nobody wants to do that, right? No, we were we saw that at day one is like let's get the harmonies just on So we would definitely take plenty of time to go over. Is that the right harmony? What is you know, let's go listen to it again, right figure it out We just have nights where we just get together and drink beer and sing sing together Yeah, you know get the harmonies locked in but I mean there's nothing that Getting a three-part harmony a lot like dialed in and you know that it's good.

There's nothing that feels better than that Oh, absolutely. It feels fantastic. Like you said it doesn't have to be a rehearsal.

Yeah, just hanging out having a few beers Yeah, let's sing something. Yeah, and that's it. That's becomes a rehearsal.

Absolutely So What's next for you guys or I shouldn't say what's next where can be I guess where can people find you and tell us a Little bit about your gigs. Where do you like to play and stuff? So our website is how rude band calm we have a show coming up this coming Saturday July 1st at the Tinley Park rib fest at the 80th Avenue train station in Tinley Park We play from 2 30 to 4 30 and then July is just kind of slammed with a bunch of different You know all over the place Fireworks shows on the third and fourth in Palatine and Elgin. Mm-hmm, and then blue chip casino on the 8th Miss Michigan City, Indiana and nice whiskey jacks up in Madison The 14th.

Yeah, no, you guys ever really sit around. Yeah, we have yeah, that's a fun place to play It's a load in socks, but yeah, there's definitely pretty cool. Yeah.

No, they're really nice. They're cool people Yeah I mean the first time we played there was we were a little concerned because they were like absolutely no alcohol on stage You're treated as an employee. You can't drink while you're playing.

I was like, this is gonna be awful. Yeah Now it was fun. It was cool.

Yeah, not that you know musicians have to drink in order to play Yeah, it's for the audience's benefit. Yes, right. Yes Man, okay, you know we always forget to we always forget to say this But I think this is going to air probably in August right probably in August.

Yes Yeah, what do you guys have coming up in August? Oh, let's see pull up the calendar Yeah, take a look here. So we have August 2nd we are playing the Elmhurst community stage in Elmhurst and then we have a Village of Hillside show on August 15th and I think that's all we have right now for August Then a couple shows in September Elmhurst rock the block on September 9th and J Mo's live in Mokina on September 15th Which is nice. It's a little close to home show for us.

James is a really Fun venue it's cool space. Yeah. Yeah nice staff So how many shows you guys play a year? I would say anywhere from like 40 to 50.

Okay, something like that So you're averaging about once a week or something like that It's pretty close enough for holidays and yeah things like that and you play mostly like South suburbs and places like that Are you are you kind of spreading out all over it feels like a lot of North suburb shows we play. Yeah, we do a lot in Like Hoffman Estates and Geneva we do a lot of shows a cubby bear to Always get these cubby bear shows whether they're like the Saturday Night Late shows or like the post Cubs game shows They'll have a band and we do a lot of those because it's like a guaranteed packed room You know, everybody comes over wasted from the game. Right? Right good built-in audience.

It's nice. Okay, but good exposure. Yeah, it's great exposure We've we've gotten some really cool gigs from those, you know, those smaller gigs like that too.

So yeah. Yeah What's your favorite place to play? I would think the I think the band would answer this even flow And yeah, I think that's a shout-out and flow. Yeah, that's everyone's answer.

I think no, that's pretty cool time there It's always packed and people have a really good time. Yeah, they're always super nice to us to everybody. They're super cool Yeah, yeah, I've played there a few times.

I love that place because Where the stage is located and it's got the really high ceiling Yeah, and it's got the balcony in the whole bit. Yeah, it reminds me of the club in Purple Rain Oh, yeah You know When the lighting and everything is right and everything, you know in there, it's like the club in Purple Rain. I love Flanders Did you guys sorry? Do you go downstairs and see the speakeasy? No, I haven't been down there yet so next time you go go downstairs and look they built like there's a brick wall with bars and it looks like a Kind of like a jail like dungeon area and you look in there and it's like a old old-school bar Okay, and there used to be a bank that building right right and Capone had his money in the vault there Oh, wow, so they they were telling us that and they've had you know, those ghost stories shows from you know TLC or whatever.

Yeah, there's just cool little area. Yeah. No, I haven't been there since they opened that up I don't I don't even think I realized that they opened something up down there.

Yeah Yeah, how long ago is that been if you right in front of the stage? To if you're walking off the stage to your left hand side, there's a little staircase that goes down right stairs Go down there. There's bathrooms. Okay, but there's also like a locked up speakeasy and I think you do like private events there Gotcha, that's for but you can kind of peek in there and see it's really nice Yeah, it's mostly like bathrooms down there right now that they don't have like events.

There's nothing going on while we're playing upstairs It's just people go down to go to the bathroom, you know, if it's haunted, maybe yeah be something going on No dinner parties happen. I don't know. Yeah.

No, it's it's a really cool space. What's your favorite when you play, you know? It's gonna sound crazy, but the my favorite place to play is a little spot over in Lockport That holds maybe a hundred people. Okay, and it's called the studio.

Okay, and if you've never been there, you should go check it out No, I'm not Absolutely, that's awesome. That's same thing. It used to be a bank.

Okay, I believe right over the over the door It says first bank of Lockport. Nice. It's right on State Street.

Okay, and I mean I played in places that hold a thousand people and yeah, it is as I'm sure you guys have but this place It's kind of like if you're familiar with the Bluebird Cafe in Nashville. Yeah, it's it's the Bluebird Cafe of the Midwest No, thanks. She's got live music there every single week singer-songwriter shows and the whole bit It's just this small little intimate place with a with a real stage and she's got real lighting in the whole bit set up All you got to do it.

I mean full back line. All you got to do is show up with your instruments and play there It's really cool, it's very cool radio you play out. No, I don't not anymore.

No more. I'm elderly What are you 35 36 close season three season I'm seasoned I'm seasoned that's right Yeah, so what I want to know so Tyler tell me where did it all start the doodle drumming you come got a few Musical family or yes, we are not athletically inclined in the least So Yes, my my dad was a singer My grandfather was also a singer would sing funerals and weddings and you know southern gospel stuff My dad was in a band in the 60s called the stingrays and they did like go-go music and he was a singer and then Yeah, I around the time 11 12. I started playing a little bit of guitar and bass but around 13, I started playing drums and just Sister's ex-boyfriend left drum set over the holidays because everyone else was playing and he left his drum set set up So I put a tape in the other room and it was like just the normal straight beat I think I could do that and run in the other room and do it and Got that and kind of added just kept listening to music and figuring out how to do it So what about bands? What kind of bands or have you been in before this? Well, what always happens to a drummer is when you go find a band they say they need a bass player so The first the first two bands I was in it was the metal band when I was like 15 I met this guy playing guitar and he was playing Metallica riffs and I was like, man I want to play drums with you and he's like, oh we got a drummer, but you play bass I'll figure it out, you know So play bass until the drummer quits and then I get to be the drummer Okay, and then that happened again in the next band.

I was in pop rock act and Did that for a while did little you know little mini tours making you know $50 a show and trying to you know Do the original thing and then you know $50 a show as a band sometimes. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah tough. So yeah from there and then got married and started working full-time and just doing music on the side doing studio stuff if someone needed something and Finally, he's still friends with all the other guys that you played shows with in the same venues when you were a kid And hey, let's go make some money and have some fun. Cool.

So Gary Yeah, I started playing guitar Freshman year of high school. I had a buddy who I met in school and he was Tim I mean I would love to look at it now as an adult and see how good he really was but he seemed like he was like the Best guitar player in the world to me because I didn't play at all, you know, and he was very into tool Stuff like that and he was a great guitar player and I just I wanted to do that so badly So I remember mentioning it to my mom and then the next day I came home from school and there was an acoustic guitar propped up against my bed So I started, you know learning and trying to figure it out reading tabs that were usually wrong on the internet because that's how it goes But yeah, I was I was heavily influenced by you know the Beatles and Metallica and different all kinds of different stuff the stuff that I like to listen to but Yeah, once I started feeling like I was good enough I started trying to start bands when I was about 16 years old things like that And then it just kind of led to You know one band leads to the next to the next and you meet people along the way and stuff like that and I started an original band 2008 and we did the whole touring thing and like you said, you know, we played a lot of shows with his old band and yeah, that just kind of Fell apart and then years later. I got into the the cover music thing going to see Actually infinity, I don't know if you guys know it the band infinity.

Yeah. Oh, yeah Lance The guitar player was playing a single cut gold top PRS and I was like I need to buy that guitar and I went and bought a PRS I started a cover band with my friends because I was like I'd always wanted to do one but I didn't really know anything about it and then going with my wife to all these festivals We're you know, we're bands like infinity play. I think I could do this if I get the right group of guys Okay, I think I'd be in a cover band so we we talked it out one night figured out a set list and started working at it and Essentially here we are six years later Yeah, yeah, so you both a blast you both said you guys had some original stuff.

Mm-hmm best. What kind of music was that? I was like very cheesy pop punk pop rock music. Yeah I was in like a Metallica mega sounding band that had pretty much all originals.

We did a couple covers. We were called cradle Yeah, I was that was my first first band. I was that's because of the cradle will rock.

That's right And Then I was in another another metal band playing bass for a while called Circus Dawn Yeah, and then after that I was in a pop rock band called made of ale. All right. Yeah good times We didn't were you athletically inclined not at all.

I was on the bowling team in high school. Yeah, okay That's a sport the bullying the bullying team or the bowling team I wasn't good at bowling, but I was on the team as an extracurricular activity. There you go.

There you go That's so funny because every time somebody talks about, you know high school and how everything got started It was either I was an athlete and didn't start playing till I was later or I wasn't an athlete I've been playing since high school. No, I went the two always go hand-in-hand. I don't know what it is athlete or musician I yeah, I went into high school the first week with every intention of joining the wrestling team and the swim team I wanted to be athletic, right? I just happened to meet the punk rock kids the first day of high school, right and that changed everything I started skateboarding skateboarding playing guitar by the end of the week and that's it.

That's the path. That's her trajectory. I took from there No regrets, I mean very cool kids and I became friends with all the athletes I just you know, but right right, you know, I was not not inclined at all athletically.

Sometimes that's the way it goes I mean we like to throw bags and stuff What about dice dice games ice could yeah, that's a lot of dice backstage, you know on a green room dice That's athletics. I mean The wrist yeah, that's true story. I tore I tore my rotator cuff playing bags So, you know, it really it's a I mean I don't know if that's because I was doing an incredibly athletic movement or I'm just getting old or a combination of both of them We were we were doing something incredibly stupid we were like, okay, let's see how far apart we can put these things and oh So it got to the point I think we were like 30 yards apart Yeah, something like that and I'm no longer just underhand pitching this thing.

I'm turning it and I'm throwing it like a Frisbee Yeah, and I just wound up man. I guess And as soon as I did that That was it God injured playing bags fun, that's a story I pulled both my hamstrings sneezing one time. So I mean I guess throwing bags So is the band all original members still yeah Yeah, yeah, we kept it the same the same for we've been lucky fortune in that sense, you know six six years That's good.

I'm Robbie six years. Yeah, that's good And I mean, you're not supposed to ask us but I'm gonna so how old are you guys? I'm 38. Okay, 36 seeing that makes that make I'm 35.

You're 35 twice. We established this Get off my we need to have a get off my lawn button. Yeah, we should That's the first thing I did but the first day of my retirement.

I got up early stand on my drive once they get off my lawn 35 by 35 is the threshold I think if you're a musician and you're in a band and you and everybody in the band Makes it to age 35. Sure. You're just gonna be together for the rest of your lives and or until you get sick of doing it Yeah, it's prior to 35 is when everybody's bitching and moaning about something and everybody's arguing Nobody's happy with everything.

I mean think about how many bands you were in between like 21 to 34. Yeah, totally We don't have time. We don't have enough time, right? Right and all sudden you hit 35.

It's like hey, we've been together six years Yeah, yeah. Well now we only have to worry about the wives saying no. Yeah, that's really the only anomaly now Oh, you know what the secret is there, right? You know, the secret is there.

What's up make money? And if we weren't we wouldn't be in this Right, right Yeah, yes, I have to play Friday night. I have to play Saturday night. I have to host an open jam on Sunday night Okay, how much you gonna make by the end of this weekend? Oh, yeah.

Okay, great. You go you go. Yeah, go ahead.

Yeah Yeah, that's been the money's been the saving grace for some of the sanity of the wives. I know yeah over the years Yeah, use it as an excuse, but you know, it's you know, we're all we're all sick in the head. Yeah comes down totally Yeah, definitely get that 35 year.

You don't care anymore. Yeah. Yeah, I totally agree with that I mean, I can enjoy what you're doing I could roast with this band for you know The next 30 years and keep doing the same thing We know we got it.

We got to wait because Jake and Mark are both what 30 30 and 33 31 and 33 Okay, we got a ways to go before we forget across that threshold. Yeah, but one's your brother though. What's my brother? He's not going anywhere.

Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah, you just put him in a headlock and give him a newbie Yeah, that's right.

But the other guy you're on the bubble. So hang in there Jay You Never know. Yeah.

All right, fellas. Hey, yeah, that was great. Thank you guys And so much wish you a lot of luck seems like you guys are really really busy all over the place You said Madison, Wisconsin you're going to yeah Yeah, that's why I keep going back to college town the bars packed and it's wild play till 2 in the morning And it's awesome.

Yeah. Yeah. No, that's great.

No medicine's a cool place to play. It's very cool. All righty Good to see you guys.

Thank you for having us. We'll be seeing you somewhere out there this summer. This place is awesome Yeah, great.

Well there you have I cannot believe how rude those guys were they were rude. They're very rude rude That's what happens in the 90s You know, I'm looking forward to hopefully getting out to see those guys cuz I I do like the 90s music I have to admit I do too. It was a Leo a high-energy Positive era well, and it's something positive for them.

I mean they they get feelings from this music They remember us a time back when they were younger, you know, right your younger days and you know When you play something like that and brings back memories, that's gotta be awesome. Yeah. Yeah Well, you know the 90s for me.

I I graduated from high school in 1988 So when when 1990 came around I was a couple years out of high school a little bit more of a man Mm-hmm, you know you think you are yeah, and it just was having a good time for about the next, you know Five years or so night and some of these songs come out and you're just like wow Yeah, I am one one that remind, you know, this is gonna kind of show my age a little bit Baker Street Yeah, Jerry Rafferty. Yeah I remember the summer that thing came on and was just playing over and and I just Every time I think of that song, I think that sacks that yeah solo. I just love that songs Absolutely, no, the 90s were formative years for me.

I mean I met my wife in 1991 or two Yeah, it's a good good good decade for you. Yeah, absolutely got married 95 I mean that whole that whole decade right there was great So I'm glad we had these guys in there and none of our computers exploded on 2000 or nothing. Oh nothing like that All righty then well, thanks again for listening to our Wonderful podcast.

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