Coming to you from the studios at the Illinois Rock and Roll Museum on Route 66, it's the Rock and Roll Chicago podcast. Hey everybody, it's Ray the Roadie. And this is Mike Mottoyer.

Coming to you from the museum once again at our studio. Got another band for you this week. It's called Cheap Foreign Cars.

How are you guys doing? All right, how about you? Good, good, good. Why don't you take a minute and introduce yourselves and who you are and what you play. We'll start at the head of the table.

Hans Mast, vocals. John Barrett, drums. Ron Wilcox, guitar.

Joe Rocha, bass and vocals. I'm Ray the Roadie. And I'm Hollywood Mike.

Just so the record, we're missing two of our guys. Jay, the keyboard player. And Reed, the multi-faceted synth guitarist.

Yeah, Reed is our utility infielder. He plays every instrument. Well, that's a shame because they're both missing out on this beautiful buffet that we provided you.

Sorry guys. Alrighty, so how did this happen? How did this band get together? Go ahead, Ron. Okay, so John called me up.

John called me up and he said, John called me up about a hundred times and said, let's start a band. Let's start a band. Let's start a band.

And eventually I floated the idea of starting a Cars tribute band. John didn't like that. I don't remember any of this.

This is exactly how it happened. He didn't like it. He said there aren't enough songs to do a tribute band for the Cars, which I still strongly disagree with to this day.

So to prove him wrong, I'm surfing YouTube and I'm going to show him there's going to be like hundreds of Cars tribute bands all over the country. And I find a bunch of them. But what really caught my eye was I found a band called Police Cars.

They were doing the police on the cars. And I thought, okay, wait, now we're onto something here. I didn't want to steal their thing.

You know, do police cars, those police cars, even though they're not local, they're not Chicago. They were, I don't know, LA or something like that. So somehow I dreamed up Cheap Foreign Cars, called him.

He loved it. And we started calling. It's spread like a virus.

You know, you called Reed. Reed called me, Joe. And Reed also called Hans.

And then we got Jay from, we got Jay from Mike Gallas. And then, you know. Yeah.

I want to know more about the name, though, because that's what everybody asks about. How's our name? Yes. Tell us about your name.

It's pretty obvious. What songs do you play? He's cheap. He's bad.

And yeah. So generally there's, there's really no explanation necessary, especially when you see the logo, like on our banner, which Hans sometimes remembers to bring to shows or our pics and website and stuff. The logo, we literally, we kind of borrowed.

Careful. Legally, I would suggest you not talk anymore about that one. Our solicitor.

So you actually didn't, I don't think you actually told us the bands that you focus on. That would be Cheap Trick. Okay.

That, that, that gives us the cheap, right? We have Foreigner that gives us the foreign and coming full circle to the original idea, the cars, cheap foreign cars. Now, did you choose those three bands because you guys just all love them and said, Ooh, we have to cover their music or did the, did the, what came first, the chicken or the egg, the name or the bands that you chose? Hans, is it true that Reed told me that when he floated the idea past you, that you said, well, that's two of those two out of the three bands you're doing are my two favorite bands. Yes.

That was me. That was a Cheap, Cheap Trick and Foreigner are my, all the way from high school and all before, uh, my favorite bands and the cars also were all part of that. But obviously, I mean, it wasn't one that primarily I listened to, but yeah, two of them, two of the three were right on top of my list.

Very good chicken or the egg. Uh, I don't really know what came first. We're just examining who had the most or what, how many hits they had and see if we can get a couple hours out of it.

Right. Then we started scrutinizing like, uh, what songs got airplay, what songs charted and one kind of what songs we just like to what bands were considered and discarded. There were no other bands.

That was it. That was just those three. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So, so I guess, um, kind of a tough question.

What's the fascination with saying we're just going to be kind of a quote unquote tribute band versus play all the music that we like and to hell with what people say. Was it a financial thing? Was it a desire to fill rooms? What, where'd that decision come from? It's not a financial thing. I know that.

Um, I mean, when I say financial, I mean, we're hoping to get more people into the, into the club, you know what I mean? A lot of people like this stuff. That's my opinion. And I know that at I don't know about Joe for sure, but Ron and I are big cheap trick fans.

Oh, sure. And I believe who you are. And I never really asked you.

Huge, huge influence for me. There's more high school or whatnot. You know, I listened to listen to them all through high school.

And I was like, Oh, I want to, you know, when I heard, uh, live at Buddha con, I was like, that's, I want to, I want to be in a rock band like that. I think, I think the perspective was, uh, you know, we're all kind of past, should I say past our prime? Should I say that or not? We're like wine, man. We're getting better.

But, but so the thought was less about them than more about us and picking the three bands that really are rooted in where we came from and, and that we love and that we want to play. And that we think everybody would enjoy playing that, you know, you don't hear, you hear a couple from these bands, you hear a couple of the obvious songs all the time from other bands, but the songs that we go into, uh, you don't hear at all. So we really got to go into deep into some of these songs that you maybe heard once or twice over the last 20 years that you liked.

And we can really, you know, go into that deeply and, and have a good time with it and enjoy it. And we, we get to play songs from bands that we love. So it really wasn't about them.

It was more about us. And, uh, how many songs are on your set list? 60, 60. Yeah, about 60.

And what percentage of those would you say people have heard regularly? Are they, or do you classify as hits? Regularly? I would say at least half, at least half of them. Yeah. Not having done the research myself to find out exactly how many there are, there are from those three bands.

I'm just curious, cause asking. We do them in order. Cheap trick foreign cards.

Cheap trick foreign cards. And we try to make it even as even as we can. Ron does it cheap foreigner cars, cheap foreigner cars.

So the whole night is kind of like that until we break loose at the end. And we'll, I'm sure Ron will talk about the end where we go into maybe a little bit of, uh, other, maybe the last couple of songs, maybe the other bands. Right.

Just to kind of have a little fun, but, um, with the cheap, cheap trick, there's probably three songs that most people hear all the time. And we can, we know those, right? We can say those very easily. Foreigners, probably four or five that you hear a lot.

And that's everything else is no. And then cars, I don't know if you hear anything other than maybe just what I needed. So that brings everything out that, you know, from the people that know the bands, you know, you're going to hear songs that you're like, Oh, wow.

I haven't heard that in 20 years. And it's, it really brings back a lot of memories. So absolutely.

Oh yeah. Cause back in the day you would listen to the whole album. So you're familiar with these.

You don't hear it on the radio, but you're familiar with these songs. Yes, exactly. You know, that, that's a good point that the people that are familiar with those bands would have, you know, they couldn't just download one song at a time.

That's right. Like the whole album. Yeah.

And it was on vinyl. Yes, it was. I had the cassettes.

I did. I did have a couple of cars albums on cassettes. Sure.

So I'm on the way over here today. I listened to a bunch of videos that your fans have posted of us, of you guys. Yeah, absolutely.

So do you do all of the singing or does anybody else sing lead? Uh, read and Joe and Ron do the backups. Okay. And I do the lead.

And you do, you do the leads. Um, I do have to make, you do a pretty good, pretty good job at the foreigner stuff. I was impressed.

I'm a singer myself and I'm listening to say, he's not going to hit this high note. Sure. Shit.

He hit the high notes. So I gotta give him, gotta give him the credit for it. I think foreigner does him a half step lower anyway, these days.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, most of them do.

That's a, that's a universal trick. I think a lot of people do that too. So we, we try to stick with the originals.

Yeah. Well, good, good. And the cool thing about, um, back to, to Hans hitting the high notes for foreigner, he's also hitting those kinds of baritone notes in the cars.

Right. That is, you know, Rick Okasik and both Rick, uh, Okasik and, um, and, uh, Ben Orr both had those, you know, more baritone. Well, before we started, he actually sang the intro to Lagrange by ZZ Top.

But he sang it a half step lower. So, uh, when did the band start? How long you guys been together? Two-ish years. Two-ish? Two years.

And what did you guys do prior? Joe, how many, 10 bands? How many? 12, 12 bands. So you never know where you might find me. Uh, there's a few, there's a few out and this was, this was one that, uh, it caught my interest because Reed, when he called me to do it, he's like, would you do this kind of, you know, would you do this kind of cover thing? I was absolutely, I'm in, you know, so, and here I am adding to all the other, you know, all the other wonderful things that I do.

This is one of them too. Right. And, and you play guitar? I play bass.

You play bass. Okay. And he sings, and he sings very well.

Right, right. And, and are you juggling these 12 bands all at the same time right now? Yes. You are? Wow.

I mean, the other fun thing about us is, you know, we're not a band that's trying to play every other weekend either. We might play what twice a month. And, uh, that's even a challenge, frankly, with Joe and we've actually substituted Joe once in a while, but not a lot.

Cause we like Joe. We love Joe. Because we don't like substituting our guys.

Right. But it's not good. Except no substitutes.

But, uh, so we're not, we're not trying to fill the calendar with this band, which is another good thing. We'll play a couple of times a month at places far away from other places. So it's kind of fun to be able to just play when we feel like playing, when we can fit it in and that's good too.

Right, right. So Mike, your background? Ron. Ron, I'm sorry.

Um, I tend to be a lot more monogamous with bands. Um, it's not always the case. I, I, I will fool around and now, now and again, but I'm mostly monogamous.

So for the past, uh, actually I was in, I was in a country, uh, old school country band for a couple of years before this. And then prior to that, I was in a local band cover girl for about 16 years. You were in cover girl.

Yes. They're very popular. Oh yeah, absolutely.

Um, the last time I saw you guys, um, I was in a band and we opened up for you at the Bowling Brook Performing Arts Center. I was in forget Hannah and about 10 years ago, Bowling Brook Performing Arts Center, we opened up for you. I remember playing there.

We played there a number of times. That's a great place to play. Oh yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It's fantastic.

I grew up, just played there this past summer. It's, uh, it's, it's great. Yeah.

Yeah. Those were grueling shows. We would play, we would play the performing center and then we'd go play at tailgaters after.

Oh yeah. Right. Right.

Or at least to go hang out at tailgaters afterwards. That's the place to go. Man.

That's a small world. I didn't know you were in cover girl. Yeah.

For that, for 15 years. Uh, about 16, I think. Wow.

Very long time. Went through a whole bunch of different players and two different girls. And then you took a few years off.

You played in the, in the country band and then you decided to put together Bad Foreign Cars. Yeah. Cheap foreign cars.

Yeah. Or cheap foreign cars. Yeah.

That's, that's the offshoot. That's the bad company. Yeah.

That's when, that's when you have to sub up. But speaking, that segues into John's background. Well, I don't think you're done, Ron.

What about, uh, all the other stuff before, uh, cover girl, like, uh, Johnny Chainsaw? Oh, that goes way back. So I was in a punk band called Johnny Chainsaw and the Troops of Tomorrow. You have to mention that.

Um, but after that, and before cover girl, I was in a bunch of other bands. One of them very notable actually was the DeLoreans. That was a really, really fun band.

We were playing all eighties stuff. And it was like all of the, everything that was not hair metal. Okay.

So the closest thing we got to hair metal was like, uh, Billy Idol, but we were doing stuff that nobody ever expected to see a cover band. We were doing like Depeche Mode and stuff. And then we were, and we were doing it.

Not easy to cover. That's... No, we were doing it spot on too. Our drummer was a genius and he wrote tracks and stuff and, uh, for the things that we couldn't cover.

Right. Right. But, uh, yeah, that was a good band.

Don't lose focus. We're videotaping. And I was also in a band with you.

Uh, an original band that really never made it out of the basement. You were briefly in one of my original bands. That was thrown out.

That was Black Box. Why not? No, I think we should talk about that. Yeah.

That's just one of my, uh, bands. I'm not as active as Joe or Ron or maybe even Hans, but I've been in a few with my brother. Uh, did a band with my brother and then some other, um, some other bands.

The most recent one was a Bad Company tribute band, uh, which we, during COVID. Good band too. Yeah.

We learned all the Bad Company stuff and free and stayed pretty much to that. And then prior to that, we, I was in a, you know, a band that did the typical, um, typical stuff you'd see in a bar with a really good singer, guitar player. We do no variety of stuff.

There's a party, party rock band, right? Right. Yeah. What was that band called? Bad Enough and then Recovered.

Okay. Um, but, uh, Bad Enough is still going. Um, you know, I believe they are.

And, uh, you know, and then. So you're only in one band, is that what you're saying? Right now I'm only in one. Monogamous.

And I'm going to keep it that way. Unless I get a roadie. Yeah.

You do have the most stuff to carry. Yeah. I'm the last one to leave.

Usually the first one there. That's right. So anyhow, that's about it for me.

And now onto Hans. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's your turn.

No, it's your turn. For what? For bands, right? Yeah. Yeah.

For your, your history. How come Joe didn't have to list all 12 bands? Joe, I would want you to, can, can you list them all? I want to hear all 12 bands. Let me see if I can get them all out because they're, I should say that of the 12 bands that I'm with, maybe four are absent, five are active.

And the rest, I'm probably maybe a first call sub. Can you do it alphabetically? Good gravy. No.

Oh, wait, wait. I can, I can think of one animation. I like animation.

So I got that one at the top. Rush, rush. Let's see animation.

I got the cheap foreign cars, which is that, that's alphabetical, right? That's so far, so far. Very good. Very good.

Let's see. Can't go back to B. I can't go back to B. Oh yeah. Cause that's my original band bump, but I missed that.

Let's see. What's the yacht rock band? The yacht rock band is, that's anchors away doing some yacht rock stuff. So that's A. So we're not, we're not alphabetizing the first word.

We're musicians, not scholars. So we are. So I missed it already.

See, we're musicians. We, I don't know. He's playing jazz right now.

Yeah. I'm playing in my mind. I'm playing jazz in my mind.

That's the progression. Yeah. You see the guy talking music over here.

Can you do a duet with. Yeah. I got a, I got to do a pleasant panic with a friend of mine doing some acoustic stuff.

Let's see. I'm, I'm in a, I'm with a band called within four days. That's, that's at the end of the alphabet within.

So planet groove is a seven piece horn band. Oh, you're in Ed Reed in there. Yeah.

Reed, Reed, Reed and I are our synth guy. Yeah. Our synth vocal guy.

He's in, he's in, uh, in a couple of bands with me, Joe Friday, planet groove. So over the, over the summer, or was it last summer? Actually it was last summer. Um, my band Cadillac groove, we played a wedding at the country club up in Itasca.

Yeah. And, and you guys, no, it wasn't, it wasn't Medina. It used to be Nordic Hills.

I can't remember what they call it now. Eagle, Eaglewood, Eaglewood resort. Yeah.

You guys were setting up on the patio while we were playing. Oh man, it gets smaller every day. Oh, it does.

Okay. I think for now, I think that's, uh, you know, my brain is, we're on P that's planet groove. What else? They're, they're all in there.

It's like Prego. It's in there. There's a, oh yeah, I got, uh, I got a, uh, a karaoke band that I work with.

That's a, the backdrop band. I've got my karaoke band, which is singing with the band. Are you in lens in it? I'm in lose in it.

Lose in it. Good. Great.

Now, man, the gray matter is now working for me today. So many things, so many projects, so little time. And you play bass in all the bands.

You play bass in all the bands, except for a pleasant, pleasant panic. I'll play, I play guitar. Okay.

So I get to strum along. That's the acoustic duo. The strum.

Yeah. The strum and strum and hum kind of thing. Right.

How did you play drums and cheap foreign cards? I, I did on a video. There is proof that I did lessons. Yeah.

Yeah. He's multi-faceted. He plays all, uh, he plays bass, bass, guitar, keyboards, drums, drums.

And I'm not saying I do that well, but I, uh, enough to get myself in trouble. All right. At least a little bit.

Well, animation is episode 64 of the rock and roll Chicago. You've been here before. I've been here before.

Great to be back. All right, Hans, your turn. Well, before we, before we go with me, uh, Reed, again, our synth vocals is with Joe and a couple of bands.

He's also with me and easy FM, which is a yacht rock. So we kind of compete with Joe's anchors away as a yacht rock band. And, uh, he's also in CTA, which is a Chicago cover band.

And then, uh, Jay, the keyboardist is in a voyage, which is, uh, that's a J pitcher, J pitcher keyboards. Reed's playing the synth guitar. He's the second in the guitars.

I don't know how he does it, but it's a synth. Right. Like anything, it's a pedal.

It's a guitar that sounds like a keyboard sometimes. Right, right, right. Uh, my, my history is less, less, uh, less active.

Uh, I I've been in a, uh, a band originally a long time ago with a rumor. And then we went into the same people went into and changed our name to Hans and the hormones. And so we were Hans and the hormones until, I don't know, 10 years, five, five years ago.

And then well, we play every now and then, but, uh, we're done. We've been done for a while, but, um, and then we started with, uh, easy FM. And then came into cheap foreign cars.

So, uh, we've all been playing a long time, just in different kinds of ways. Easy FM episode 32 of the rock and roll Chicago podcast. I wasn't here, but that was, yeah, you weren't with them at that time.

So these guys are all double dipping. There's a loophole and everything, you know, it's supposed to be a one and done, but I mean, there's, we find, find loopholes. That's like, yeah, you do.

That's why, that's why we ask the hard questions. That's right. And you're only in one band.

Is that what you're saying? Um, come on. No. Okay.

There we go. But I'm not in 12. I'm in Cadillac groove and we're, um, we're a nine piece horn band.

Yeah. We've got a four piece one section. And then we're actually 10 guys though, because we actually have a full-time sound engineer and he gets paid and comes out to gigs and does everything.

Just like he's a member of the band. Y'all. Yeah, absolutely.

It's, and if you've, if you've never been a band with a full-time sound engineer, you're missing out. That's like the dream luxury for, for us. Oh yeah.

It's like rich Corinthian leather or something. Right, right, right, right. So every time you walk into a bar, it's a whole new adventure to know where it's going to be at the end of the night, where you have it the same way every night.

Oh yes, absolutely. And we've, we've got it down to a science. It's great to have that.

The sound guy can make you or break you. All right. Oh, absolutely.

We've been broken. Oh yeah. No, I do, I do that.

And I do solo stuff and I have a, I have a Texas style blues country band. We're called Mike and the Steel Masters. Okay.

And then you can see me around on every single Sunday at a place called the studio in Lockport about 10 minutes away from here. And I host the open jam there on Sunday nights at eight o'clock. So that's about, that's about what I do, you know, musically, but that's enough because between those three projects, I played about 150 shows last year.

So I don't need to, I don't need any more than that. Yeah. That's, that's almost as many as Joe.

Almost. Oh, I left out because we were listing, literally listing every band. The country band I was in was Hody Snitch.

The Andy Griffith show. Exactly. I'm sorry.

I think we're gonna have to edit that out. You missed your, your chance, your chance. Joe is actually a regular in my cousin's band too.

Big Al Wetzel up in Wisconsin. Yeah. So cross all borders.

Crossing borders. Right. So how are you guys finding your gigs? Do you work with any booking agents or do you do it all yourself? So we will book some things.

Hans and I both have some contacts that we've made over the years and we're booking some things directly like that. But we also work a whole lot with United Talent with Joey DeMarco. Oh, sure.

Right. He covers a lot of bases. Yeah.

Yeah. No, he, he does take a lot of work out of it for, you know, for bands looking for gigs. That's for sure.

And where do you play most of the time? Is it all over the place or are you kind of centralized to one kind of area? I would say there's not a lot to play in certain areas, places to play. But a lot of, I noticed a lot of stuff is up north. Mickey Finn's.

Nico's Red Mill. Sundance. Yeah, Sundance.

Yeah. Sundance is a big, is a big venue for a lot of bands. Yeah.

Some things west and south. Yeah, Tailgater is a base camp and. Empty Barrels.

Empty Barrels. And the fun one is Foundation. Foundation.

In Chicago, actually. On Irving. Nice stage.

It's in the Portage Park neighborhood. From what I understand, the Brussels sprouts are second to none. The food's really good.

Oh, I thought there was another band you were in. The Brussels sprouts. It is now.

The Bo Brussels sprouts. It's a new one from Rita Jones. You've heard it here.

You mean the Brussels sprouts. The Brussels sprouts. Oh, wow.

I gotta go do the Brussels sprouts again. I want to see that act when you put that together. You heard it, Ron.

We're on it. But you'd be so new, you'll still be green. Right.

Oh, no, he said that, didn't he? Ron does have an idea for a new band. A take on the Beatles. You want to explain that one? Oh, we're going to wait.

Do we really want to leak this? Maybe we shouldn't leak it. Maybe we should hold that back. We gotta write that.

All right. Write up the contract. We were going to.

We'll be back and do a podcast for that. If you'll have us. Just give them the name.

Maybe you don't have to explain it. It's Yoko's fault. OK.

You can use your imagination. It's all the I'm going to say it. OK, we're going to say it.

OK. It's all the Beatles individually. Solo songs after the Beatles.

So no Beatles songs. It's Yoko's fault. Just all the solo stuff.

Interesting. Yeah, very interesting. You guys have a lot of time on your hands to sit around.

It's combinations. You're going to you're missing reading this one. I think if Reid was here, you'd have so much to say about that.

But anyway. Wow. No, that's that's actually an interesting concept.

It really is. I have to say that's unique. It could be complicated.

Yeah, if it takes off and you leave an envelope on the table when you leave this evening. I guess that'd be the first podcast payola. Yeah.

All right. So where can people find you guys social media wise? We do this brand new thing. I'm not sure if anybody's heard of this.

Face face Facebook Facebook Facebook. So we do we do Facebook and and Facebook. That's about all for social media.

We're not real big in the social media website. We have a website, CFC band dot com. Yeah, you guys popped up pretty right.

Pretty easily. When I did a Google search. How did you search? I just searched for the name of the band.

Cheap cheap. I said cheap foreign cars band and about six videos popped up. Wow.

Yeah, that's scary. Sometimes you never know what those are. No, in fact, they might still be on my phone.

I heard a couple of foreigner tunes that I heard. If you say cheap tricking cars, I'm going to slap you. Probably a cheap trick song in there somewhere.

Somewhere. Somewhere. And I'll make babies.

Kill him. And I'll make babies kiss. And then you're right.

But then you're not. Oh, it's got to be you. She said, let's go.

She said. She said. No, but you came up pretty, pretty easily when it's good.

Because initially the algorithms or whatever to search crawlers are catching up. Because initially you would search cheap foreign cars and you would just get like, you know, big L's used cars.com and stuff like that. No, that's why I figured I would.

That's why I made sure I put band at the end of it came right up. So you say you got together two years ago. Was this during the pandemic? Yeah.

So like you guys, nobody was you weren't playing or nothing, and you just decided you want to put something new together. We're also the bands, I think, but nothing was happening. Right.

Not a whole lot of action. Nothing was happening. But yeah, we're wearing masks.

It was starting to taper off a little bit. What are you going to do? Yeah. There's a lot of bands that did play during the pandemic and others that didn't play at all.

So yeah, right. Yeah, that's that's what made one of my bands fall apart. Nobody wanted to go in a bar.

Right. Yeah. All 12 of Joe's just have been strong.

Joe was book solid. We took our vitamins. We took, you know, our orange juice and all that.

We were good. Joe played all the COVID parties. So are you playing like every day? Almost like four nights a week, at least.

He actually, you know, it's funny. He actually plays sometimes before our shows. Yeah, it happened the other night.

It happened a couple of times. Yeah. And so, you know, we're all waiting, keeping the stage warm for him.

He'll come up and we'll play him. It'll all be good. We started at 10 on Friday and Joe walked in at like three minutes.

His bass was still tuned. Yeah, still tuned. It was still warm.

Joe, you never told us. Where'd you come from? We didn't ask you where. Oh, from I was in Geneva, Geneva.

I was in Geneva. I was playing. I was playing Evenflo in Geneva.

Wow. Doing live karaoke there opening for Red Woody. And then so, you know, I pretty much.

When I originally took the gig, I thought when Ron and I spoke about it, he's like, you're going to make it to the gig, right? And I said, well, yeah, I, you know, and I was under the impression that it was a 10. When I when we had spoken about it. So I'm like, OK, well, I'll just I'll figure out a way to kind of skirt out, you know, early from the, you know, the early gig and make the 10 o'clock.

And luckily I did because, you know, I came in two minutes before showtime. I lucked out. You nailed it.

Nailed it. And it went well. It went really well.

It went really well. Great. I mean, there's great guys to work with.

These really, really good band to work with. So come see Cheap Foreign Cars. They should.

All of our listeners. I agree. Yes.

One day we hope to have the parking lot full. We'll make it a special event. Parking lot should be full of cheap foreign cars.

I want everyone to go out and just buy a cheap foreign car and just to drive it to our show. Like a Datsun. Yes.

I think you guys should go out and buy a cheap foreign car, an old junker and raffle it off at a show. That's a promo. Well, we have cheap cars.

We just don't have foreign ones, but we can maybe work that out. You need to find something like a 1978 Datsun. That's a car that's worth money.

Call Victory Auto Records. What was that Czechoslovakian car that was out? It was really a piece of. You go, you go, you go.

Yugoslavia. Yeah, Yugoslavia. Now they're Bosnia-Herzegovina or something like that.

So Hugo's my real name. Actually, you go change it to Ron. It was harder to spell.

Let me spell Ron and said. Well, all righty, guys. Thanks for coming out.

It's been a lot of fun. Hopefully we'll get out and see you guys sometime. Start playing down south here a little bit.

Let's make love to yeah, we should play here at the forge. All right, there you go. We'd love to.

Let's let's do that. All righty. Thanks for coming out.

And thanks for having us. Talk to you soon. Thank you very much.

All righty. Well, those were your friendly car dealers, the cheap foreign cars. Yes, they were.

And they knew a whole heck of a lot about those three bands, too. Yes, they did. Well, you expect them to be foremost authority.

But they did say, you know, sometimes they finish your shows with a couple of other bands, you know, just to mess around a little bit. Didn't say who, but quite an interesting concept. They did say who did they say? I don't remember.

I must have been laughing too hard. They said who did they say? Who? Who? Maybe it was the who? Okay. Guess who? Not just the who? Just the who? Okay.

Any who? Any who? But yeah, so that was a lot of fun with them, guys. So I hope everybody enjoyed it. We sure did.

And we hope to see you. We'll see you. We won't see you.

You'll hear us next week. Take care, everybody. See you later.

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