Hey, this is Paul Martin. And Ray the Roadie. For the Rock and Roll Chicago podcast.

What's up, Ray? Oh, just rocking and a rolling. Yep. That's right.

Me too. Getting my 60s groove on. You are? Listen to some Beatles and some Stones and some Who.

I see you got tickets for Tommy James and the Shandells, huh? I do. I'm going to see Tommy James and the Shandells. I think it's in October he's coming at the beautiful Rialto Theater in downtown Joliet, Illinois.

Just down the road a piece from our studio. Okay. Well, so you are getting your 60s groove on.

I am getting my 60s groove on. Most definitely. Isn't that what you do when you get into the 60s? I guess.

I don't know. I wouldn't know because I'm still young. And you were born in the 60s, were you? No, I wasn't.

No, I was not born in the 60s. No. But you did grow up in the 60s.

Yeah, I did grow up in the 60s. You got me there. I did.

I was a youth. I was a youth in the 60s. And a young youth.

Young youth hanging out by the Peace Bridge in Marquette Park. We talked about that once, didn't we? We did. Peace Bridge.

So what are you up to? I'm under construction. Are you really? Yes. You having surgery again or what? No, no.

Not me. My house. Oh, okay.

Not that construction. Different construction. Right, right, right.

Hey, what are you doing? We're changing some stuff around. We're preparing for our senior year so we don't have to go up and down the stairs. We're moving the laundry room to the first floor.

Oh, very nice. Very nice. Maybe you should get one of those old-time chairs that runs along the floor.

That would be pretty cool though. I was thinking about that. That would be kind of cool.

But then carrying the laundry while you're sitting in that chair might be a little bit tough. Might be. Might be.

You carry laundry? Oh, yeah. Wow. You're quite the man.

But then I carry laundry too. But I don't have anybody here to carry my laundry for me. So I tried to get the dog to do it one time.

It's all over the yard. Everywhere. Yeah.

My unmentionables and everything. So who are we talking to today? Today, joining us is Chicago's very own Phil Angadie. Phil Angadie.

From the Beatle Brothers fame. Correct. And from a few other bands.

And from just his own solo career. That's right. Quite an extensive solo career.

And I believe he's got some news for everybody in the South. interview. Well, let's listen and find out.

Let's see what he has to say. So welcome to the show, everyone. Today, we're speaking with the guitarist extraordinaire, Phil Angadie.

How you doing, Phil? Hey, Phil. Good to see you guys. How are you guys? Good.

Good. Wonderful. Nice talking with you.

Yeah. So tell us. Let's start out as a young Phil Angadie.

When you first learned to play guitar? Well. First musical experience? Well, it started off when I was seven. I asked mom and dad to get me a guitar.

And I took lessons on the east side in a little place called Stevens Academy of Music. And that's when I started. But like most little kids, I didn't stick with it.

Like I should have practiced and, you know, sit down and study. So it was a good introduction. I picked it up again in high school.

And I was just listening to all my favorite music, like a little sponge. So it all just kind of came back to me, whatever I learned when I was little. But then I kind of self-taught myself from there on.

And I just kept rolling. I see. What was your first gig? Oh, that's a great question.

I did a graduation party for a friend in the neighborhood. We were in a garage in the driveway. And it was myself, Dennis, and Rob.

We became a trio known as the Fleas. I was 17, 18. And that was our first professional gig.

And then we played a couple little bars in the neighborhood. The first really good paying gig was a little bar on 95th Street called Godfather's on the east side. So we kind of started playing gigs right after that party.

And we actually had a bunch of gigs that summer. Who was in that band with you? Local guys. A friend of mine named Dennis Pizzuto, he played bass and sang harmonies with me.

And my friend Rob Kutzer was the drummer. And I went to high school with Rob. And Rob soon, maybe left a year or so after.

And he was replaced with another schoolmate of mine named Ron Jagelski. And that was the Fleas. And we stuck together for two, three years under that name.

Did you guys do any originals? Or was it all covers? Yeah. It was mostly covers. But Dennis and I had a bunch of songs we had written.

And we were brave enough to try them on occasion. And yeah, it was a great experience. Because it was the first time getting out and playing in public.

And of course, we did a lot of Beatles and Stones, early Stones and Who covers. That was our thing. And it was just a lot of fun.

And all your friends would just come out. And you never had to worry about paying a roadie. Your friends would carry your stuff in to get into the club.

It was great times. Really good times. Don't get any ideas, Paul.

Yeah, OK. Yeah, Paul. I'm sure Paul's never been through that.

So when did you link up with Jay Gepner? Good link question. So after the Fleas disbanded, I met up actually first with my friend. I met Jay at Beatlefest a long, long time ago.

I think I was in the Fleas. And he was in a band called Feedback with his brother and some people. Well, in that band that Jay was in was a guy named Donny V from Enough's Enough fame.

Donny V and I met through Jay. And Donny and I became real fast friends. And we both sang and wrote and played songs.

So we started a band together. A lot of people, some people know this, some people don't. Anyway, we were a band called The Scuffle.

And we were doing 60s covers. We did some contemporary things like Squeeze and Elvis Costello. And then Donny and I started writing songs together.

In fact, we did a couple in that band. And that band lasted for a couple of years. And then Donny went off, started the band with Chip.

And then I started a little bit of a solo thing. And I started a new band called The Idea a couple of years after that. In that interim there, Jay and I became friends.

And then Jay started getting himself on the Jonathan Brandmeier show by calling in. Next thing you know, he invited me because I played guitar and sang harmonies. And then we became the Beatle Brothers.

It was just kind of really based out of the Johnny B show. And then we started playing all these gigs as a duo. And the rest was history.

We played with you guys a bunch. Yeah, as you said, we played together quite a few times. Yeah, we did a lot of summer festivals with you guys.

And yeah, that was a lot of fun. Yeah. Yes, it was.

It's funny how things just come together like that from something. Oh, yeah. Well, you're always enjoying Johnny B. We love playing with the Noodles.

Great guys, great band. And, you know, Jay, it was easy. Jay and I got a lot of gigs like that.

Because it was just the two of us, just acoustic guitar and me and him singing. We'd go up on stage and open. We didn't have to break down all this gear and everything.

So bands kind of like that. And then we would go and play shows. For the first few years, it was just Jay and I. It was just a duo.

And then, eventually, we put a band around us, too. But it was kind of early days. It was just Jay and I. It was like Simon and Garfunkel, just one acoustic and two vocals.

And yeah, a lot of fun. Yes, it was. Yes, it was.

It was a good time. So what happened after Beatle Brothers for you? All those years during the Beatle Brothers, I was writing my own songs and putting out records, which is pretty hard to do in Chicago. You know, the Beatle Brothers had a big name, and I was kind of competing against that.

As seriously as I took it, it just never really took off for me, unfortunately. I got some good reviews, put together some really good bands, but it was a struggle. It's really hard.

It's a very hit-and-miss biz. And I always thought the material was there, good poppy, catchy stuff. But I kept as busy as I could.

It's just really hard to fight playing Beatle covers and getting paid and something like that. It's just so damn popular. It's pretty hard to compete with that with your own stuff.

So I tried. Did you ever play any stuff with Jay, his singing? Sorry? You know, I actually put Jay in the band for a short time. And Jay and I are great friends.

He's a great singer and everything. But they're all my songs, and so that didn't really work as well as I had hoped. So we just kind of kept together as we were.

So yeah, that really never worked out. And then over the years, I just kept doing mostly just solo gigs, which are fun too. This new project, which I'll talk about a little bit, kind of came together because of just the boredom of COVID.

I put together a solo record, and that was fun. But I really wanted to do something with a band. And this new record, it's a band project, but they're all my songs.

Were you funding all this stuff years ago too? I mean, just putting it at yourself? Yeah, basically, I was on a couple small labels. Yeah, Paul, I was on a couple small labels. Nothing big.

The labels were helpful to a degree, but it's still all about distribution and having some money behind you. And getting on the right tours would have been good. That was the one thing I just couldn't catch on.

But yeah, it was mostly self-released with the help of a small label here and there. And can we still get some of that stuff on Spotify or iTunes? Yeah, all my stuff's on Spotify. I have a website, www.PhilAngottiMusic.com, and the stuff's available.

There's a couple CDs that are out of print, and most of it's available, though. So now you've got a new project going on. Yes, I do.

There's the poster. It's called Once Around Again. There's a little coaster.

A little coaster out of it. Record. So just a quick story about it.

I have a friend in LA who played with Brian Wilson Band, J.K. Harrison. He produced it. A guy named Johnny Neiman did some mixing for us.

I had it mastered here in Chicago. I did the record basically myself on vocals. My friend Blair Holmes on drums, backing vocals, and some Chicago artists like Casey McDonough, who played with me in the Beatle Brothers and has done a million projects with me.

Casey's in NRBQ now touring. Great, great musician. Brian Wilkie played Pedal Steel on two songs.

And the really cool story about this is Spencer Gibb, who is the son of Robin Gibb of Bee Gees fame, actually did a string arrangement and production on one song and sang a little harmony with us. So that was really exciting. That's cool.

That was really cool. Son of a Bee Gee. Where did you record it? The recording was done here in Chicago at my friend Blair's studio up on Ravenswood and Grace.

And then the songs were flown out. You know how you can do tracks now, just send them out. And then my friend J.K. did all the mixing and producing in LA.

We went out there Super Bowl weekend to mix the record, which musicians don't really plan this stuff very well. Hey, when do you want to go to LA to mix your record? Oh, Super Bowl weekend. The Rams are playing.

Good luck in your room or a car or anything, right? So it added to the craziness, but it was fun. We got it done. And we're having a big release party next Thursday at Martyrs.

And I've got a lot of, some of the guys that recorded on it are joining me. And we're going to do the whole record as it appears on the album with a few extra songs. So that's going to be a lot of fun.

Is that open to the public? It is. Yeah. There's still ticks available.

And that's at Martyrs. Martyrs is on, I forget the exact address, but it's on Lincoln Avenue. Really great club and the show's going to start around 738 o'clock.

And yeah, it's going to be fun. So you said this album came together during the pandemic. Yeah.

So it inspired you? Yeah, basically guys, as you know, it was just a pretty boring time. We didn't have any gigs. I was putting up songs on Facebook, like one at a time with my acoustic.

Then I had enough songs to put out a solo record, which I did. It's called Still Life. I had so much stuff laying around.

I started writing a few more songs and I thought, oh, this needs a full band arrangement. So Still Life came out and then I'm like, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to go ahead and record these songs. So kind of two records came out at that time.

And this one being the second one. So yeah, it was just, it was a good time to sit around and write. Is it easy for you to write? It always has been.

I've always been pretty into it. I never have to force myself. We all go through dry spells, but since I was younger.

It's like a baseball player, just like a hitter, right? Yeah. It's like a baseball player, you go through dry spells. Yeah, sometimes it's just, you're banging them out and sometimes you're not.

But yeah, that particular period, obviously it was very, it was a good time to do it. But yeah, I've always put out a lot of music. This record here, once around again, will be the 14th full length record I've done over the years.

The first one came out in 86. So I've been putting out a lot of music. So yeah, I'm proud of that.

And I'm proud of the fact that I still find it fun to do. And I feel like it's just something I need to do. What would you describe your music as? It's pretty, I would say, though it has shades of folk in it sometimes, especially when I do the solo stuff, it's pretty power pop.

It's so obvious to say it's 60s influence, but a lot of guys would tell you that. A lot of comparisons from critics have been a little bit like a squeeze, cheap trick meets the birds. And it's got a little bit of, there's always going to be an underlying kind of guitar styling.

I'm very like, you know, Rick and Bachery, jangly pop kind of sound. That's just my sound. And I did deviate off of that a little bit in this record.

Scott and J.K. played some guitar in it, and did some things that I wouldn't have done, which is nice. It was refreshing. Have another guitar player step in and do solos and do some parts that I wouldn't have thought of or played.

Are you, when you're writing, are you a lyrics music guy or a music lyrics guy? What comes first? It's both. A lot of times the lyrics are first, titles come first, and I write around that. Like for instance, there's a song in the album called Mystery Street.

All the neighbors are sitting and talking on their porches Might as well be chasing monsters with pretensions Safe and secure in their old brick houses I can't see a difference, there's nothing to despise And there's no one I care to meet I just like it here on Mystery Street And there's nothing ever on the beat Of a stranger Mystery Street is a little studio on Lincoln, three blocks from my house where we go and rehearse. They also have a little recording studio there. I was driving by one night and it was lit up.

It was really cool signs. It's Mystery Street. I thought, oh, that's a good title.

Or one song in the album is called Shy Violet, which a local Chicago DJ, a friend of mine, who lives down the street from me, her name's Terry Hemmert. She was just sat around talking to me one day and she was telling a funny story how a listener called in asking for a song called Shy Violet by Eric Burden. And she says, there's no such song.

The listener was referring to Sky Pilot. So, you know, I thought it was great because I'm like, that's such a great title, Shy Violet. So I just wrote it down.

I just jotted it down. And then maybe a few months later, I came to that for a title. You say it rains again on your grave But I think it's all a part of your own desaturation You know that you just, I just try to need to hide You're all to say you don't need to know Little things like that that inspired me.

Like there's a song in the album called Better Side. During the pandemic, a songwriter you guys may know, Emmett Rhodes, he was in a band called The Merry-Go-Round. He made a couple of really great solo records in the 70s, but he was still obscure enough.

A lot of people don't know him. He had a song called Fresh as a Daisy. It was a big AM radio hit in the early 70s.

So Emmett passed away during COVID and I took some song titles and lyric things and put it together as like a little bit of song about him. So that's where some of the ideas were coming from. So I'd say in this album, a lot of the songs did start with lyrics first.

So have you been performing a lot, knowing that the pandemic is kind of waning down? Yeah. In fact, you guys had Lindsey Cochran on your show. I listened in.

That was nice. Lindsey has great moments in vinyl and I'm often a guest singer for that band. We just did a Rolling Stones show in Joliet a couple of weeks ago.

Or we did a show featuring the early Stones, which is cool because it's stuff that a lot of Stones bands don't cover. Like doing things like Lady Jane and Yesterday's Papers. And then some hits too.

So I play with Lindsey with great moments in vinyl. We're going to be back doing Tom Petty sometime in July. And then I play an occasional solo gig.

The Beatle Brothers got together a couple of weekends ago to do a tribute to our guitar player, Richie Guice, who had sadly passed away during COVID in 2020. So I've been busy gigging, so that's good. Yeah, I saw you guys at the City Winery.

Oh yeah, and then I do a Beatle brunch at City Winery. That's once a month. I host it.

It's a band that I usually put together. We're doing one this Sunday, in fact. We do different themes, so the show's never the same.

Like we did a Paul McCartney solo show a couple of months ago. We did Harrison on his birthday. This Sunday we're doing Beatle love songs, like the Brown album that came out.

I think that was, I don't know, was that the late 70s maybe? So yeah, it's always a different theme. And then in June we're going to do a Sgt. Pepper gig. So that'll be fun.

Playing music that they never played live before. Well, that's the thing about that, yeah. You have to bring some string players.

Yeah, that one's going to be tricky. We're like, this Sunday we can just do like four-piece, two guitars, bass, and we all sing. But Pepper will be a little tricky.

I have to think about how I approach some of that. Like I don't have a band of Indian musicians to come to do George's song. I have to figure out how to do that.

Any ideas, Paul? No, not offhand. I'm sure you'll come up with something, though. I'll figure something.

So I know Lindsay is a great storyteller as well. Yeah, it's a really cool concept, how he does the shows. I really like it.

It's really interesting. When I first joined the band, I wasn't sure how that would work. It also gives you time as a musician to kind of set.

You could tune. You could switch instruments. I'm a stickler about bringing the right guitars for the shows.

But Lindsay's storytelling, he's just got a great voice for it, and he makes it interesting. He's done a great job of it. I really like doing those shows with him.

They're a lot of fun. You saw the Stones tribute, the early Stones at City Winery. Oh, were you there? That's right.

I talked to you, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I was sitting right next to you.

Yeah, yeah, that's right. We did a similar show at Joliet. The only difference was Casey McDonough filled in for Richard, couldn't make it.

And on keyboards, we had our friend Greg Woods played instead of Debbie. Debbie was wonderful. She was great, too.

So that's what's good about the band. There's some moving pieces, and we always get people to seem to fill the gap really well. So, yeah, that's right.

I did talk to you at the show. Yeah, it was, I mean, extraordinary. I mean, between every song, he tells that story.

I mean, you learn stuff you never knew, you know? Yeah, I think he does a great job with it. Yeah, thanks for coming. It was good.

It was fun. Definitely see you guys again. That's a lot of fun.

Oh, good. It's a great venue to watch music, people sit and listen to you, as opposed to a bar where they're chatting away, which that's part of it. But my mom likes to come.

My mom is coming Sunday. She says, it's just so nice to see you where people are just being quiet and listening to it. I'm like, yeah, Mom, it is nice.

Yes, yes. No one's yelling Freebird. Right.

Well, if they see the show, they probably just planted the seed, but that's all right. Well, we'll think of Kevin Matthews when he started that. Yes, yes, yeah.

And this album, are you a label, or are you funding this album? So far, we're not. We're talking to a couple different labels, hopefully to jump on it. So for the show, we just made a small run, just so we have them for our friends and people that come to the gig.

And the social media thing now is like Disc Makers, for instance, will make you a small run of CDs, and they do a little digital package where they'll put all your stuff on Bandcamp and Spotify and CD Baby. So that's pretty nice that you can do it that way. If we're lucky enough to get somebody along that wants to put it out, they just grab it and relabel it.

And that would be great if that happens. If it doesn't, we still have it out. And that's the main thing.

That's what we're doing it for. So has it been released yet? No, Paul. I'm waiting for the disc as we speak.

UPS says today. So no, we'll have them at the show Thursday, and that'll be the first day. And then it'll be available online.

I'll send you guys one. It'll be released on Thursday to like Spotify. Yes.

Yeah, we're supposed to do a joint. Yeah, they do it that way where they ask you, hey, when is your local release? And then they kind of coincide with the date. So that's what's going to happen.

So it'll drop Thursday. As they say, drop into business. Yeah, it drops, right? It just sounds cool, right? Yes.

So you said you like using the right guitar for the right sound. First of all, you used to have a shop, didn't you? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

So I had a little guitar store because I worked at Chicago Music Exchange for many years, and that was a great vintage shop. They still are around, new owner. I learned a lot and traded a lot and bought a lot of guitars.

So I opened a shop called Avenue N Guitars with two partners, and that was in Wicker Park. We were there for 13 years. We shut her down at the end of 2019.

Good timing. And I kept a lot of stuff. I have a lot of guitars, but when I play Tom Petty's show, I'm going to bring a Rick-12 and a Rick-6 and a Strat.

And if I play Stones, I think at that show, I had my Telly. Telly. Guild 12-string for the 12-string songs, I guess, Tears Go By.

Yeah, so I try to bring, and for the Beatles, I've always had the Beatle guitars, the little Rickenbacker and the 12-string and the Casino. Yeah, it's fun. I collect them and I want to use them.

So I do use different guitars for different shows. I have a Jazzmaster for Elvis Costello. Nice.

Yeah, you never have enough guitars. You guys know that. Right, right, right.

No such thing. No such animal. No.

So tell us about your shop that you had there. Sorry, Paul? About the shop you had on the Eastside. Oh, so the shop I actually owned was in Wicker Park.

I never actually had my own store on the Eastside, though I lived there for a long time. I looked into it. I thought you had a store on the Eastside.

No, I never did. There was a shop in Whiting that I was considering taking that place, but it didn't seem like the right spot. The place in Wicker Park was really neat because we designed it to look really old school.

You walked in and we had a lot of posters from the old days. I had a big cabinet in front where I displayed old 45s and little trinkets, old boxes of strings from the 50s, old sheet music. I would feature a couple of vintage guitars in there because they'd stand up in there, like little, you know, we had the Beatle dowels in there from the 60s, the Remco ones, all kinds of really cool stuff.

So people came in, it was a nice looking, visually it was a really nice looking shop. The front windows, I dressed them up to look like a shop. I made it look like, if you look at the windows of Hesse's Music Shop in Liverpool, I had pictures of that and they kind of looked like that.

And I was kind of proud of the way it looked. It didn't look like a guitar center. It didn't look like a regular, it looked like a really cool old mom and pop store that you'd see in the 60s now.

And we did, we had a nice run, 13 years, but competing with online sales today is really tough, you know, really tough. I don't know about buying a guitar online anymore. I mean, I mean, just, you gotta play it.

You gotta have a feel for it. You would think so. I was a little surprised that, you know, more people weren't doing that.

A lot of times they'd come in and just shop and see what we had and they'd go, well, we can get it online cheaper. I'm like rolling your eyes and go, yeah, it was pretty hard to keep up with that thought. But that's what happened.

You know, again, we, we had a good little run. It was a fun experience, but to win out there. Now it's a dog shop, high end pet, pet treats and grooming.

And you've got a lot of guitars out of it. Well, I kept a few. Yeah.

I've got, I've got enough guitars to keep me happy for a while. I mean, you go like play so many, right, Paul, but yeah. Right.

But, you know, as far as collecting goes, if you have good stuff, it'll always keep its value, you know, one day when I'm sick of playing or I don't, don't need them all. I could, you know, sell them or pass them on to the kids. Hopefully they'll keep them from me for a while.

But in the meantime, it's just an enjoyable hobby. And I, again, I do use them. So why not? Why not have good Ray? I was going to say, so out of, out of all, you said, this is your 14th album coming out.

Yeah. Out of all your 14 got a favorite song. Um, that's a good question.

Yeah. There's a, there's a song, um, called too late tomorrow that came out on an album called flower bomb a long time ago. I think that was 2001.

And I've, I've I rerecorded it a few years ago and it's one of those songs that I never felt like I ever got it just right. I may give it another crack. Um, but it's, it's a, it's a good tune.

I play it live. I can tell people like it. Um, we're going to do it at the show, even though it's not on a new album, you can tell which ones are fan favorites just by the reaction.

But yeah, I just thought it was a really strong song, um, musically and lyrically. So that'd be my favorite. I'd say there's one on a new album.

I like to, of course, of course. Yeah. Especially the new albums.

Yeah. But yeah, I always think that people do, they, they do have favorites, but a lot of times they don't want to talk about it. Oh no.

I like all my music. They usually say, yeah, no, you won't get that from me. I'll go back and look.

And even if I think some of the songs were good or well-written, there's always songs that not cringe, but go back and go, I didn't record that right. Or I should have taken more time with that. Or, you know, you know how it is when you're mixing too.

It's like, you never satisfied. You have to finally just kind of say, okay, we're done. But this, this one, I could, I could say that I'm really pleased with the mixes and the production.

And the main reason is, is I was a little hands off of that part. Like I did the writing, I sang, I played guitar on it, but I really let, um, JK produce and really let him do it. Like, and I think that was important.

It also makes the record sound different. So it won't be like the same old thing for me, you know, which was the joke about the title too. Once around again, like, here we go again.

But, but, um, no, it's, I think that people that know me and heard my songs over the years, we'll find it refreshing. Cause again, having a different producer and a different set of ears on it was really for me. That's what made it for me.

Yeah. I know when you're, when you're sitting there and you're listening back to something and you want to add parts and you want to take away parts and, and, and, and sometimes, sometimes you need an extra ear to go, no, no, no, leave it like that. Or, or yes, I agree.

It's something here. Oh, absolutely. Yeah.

And especially when you're working with a guy with this kind of experience in a studio and he's worked with some great people, it was really good getting his advice and getting his take on it. Cause like, you know, after a while I was just kind of like, you know, I didn't push back as much as I normally would. I was very, I really let him go with it.

Cause he said, well, you want me to produce this? Let me produce it. So, you know, I know you're used to doing it your way. And I was like, yeah, I put myself in a mindset from the beginning.

I'm like, yeah, I'm going to really let him do it. And I'm really glad I did. So it worked out.

Yeah. Cause that, that mix you got today that you say is perfect tomorrow, when you come back in and turn it on, it's all, no, it's not right. Well, he was doing that with the mastering.

He sent it to, uh, there's a, there's a local guy named Blaise Barton. He works at Joyride. He's a great, so good at mastering.

And, um, when I did, he did my last couple of projects and I, I listened to it and I was like, oh, these are great. And, um, JK had sent him a one song in particular. I sent you guys a song called shy violet.

Scott was real particular on that one. He made him re he made him remaster it like two or three times or something in it. He was hearing it wasn't working.

And so he was really meticulous about, you know, getting the sounds just right. I appreciated that, but I couldn't hear what he was talking about. I just trusted him on it, but yeah, it came out nice.

So that's all. It's all it matters. Then the end product came out nicely.

So I'm excited for people to hear it. So, so it's coming out on Thursday, the 26th at martyrs. Yup.

And will you be touring or playing other places? We'll probably go, we'll definitely do a show in LA because that's where he is. Um, we'd probably like to do some Midwest shows. Um, I would like to get that going.

It would be beneficial to line it up with a, with a good band that we could, you know, join a, a tour. Cause when you're going out of town and you're not that well known out of town, you don't want to go and play empty rooms. You, I'd rather open for somebody that has a crowd and that's how you make a new audience and bring a record and play a good show somewhere.

And that's the same for other bands. And they come here, you know, it's, you got to kind of line it up correctly or just to do it, to do it, you know, you can go on the road and get frustrated or, you know, you want to play to some people to hear the song. Um, so hopefully we can get something lined up, you know, nice.

We'll see. And where, where, where do we find them? Um, if you were doing shows, where would we find out more information about you? Yeah, Paul, Facebook is good because I do post stuff regularly. Um, but yeah, the website, once again, it's, it's just my name.

Remember philandgoddymusic.com. We have a nice website there. Um, my friend Annette helps me with it. Thank God.

Um, we put up merch there, um, um, some info for shows and she, she, she keeps it up pretty well for me. So I'm not too good at that stuff. So I have help there.

It's the same philandgoddy on Facebook. Yep. Same guy.

There's only one. Thank God. Well, good luck with that, uh, CD or the album.

I'm sorry. Their albums. We're going to press vinyl, but you know, you got, you probably heard the story with vinyls.

You got to wait so long. Yeah. So we'll come out with a vinyl release.

We're in line, but, um, we just wanted to get it out. You know, there's just a time to do it when it's finished and you're done. You know, so yeah, the CD will be out and uh, yeah, guys, um, I'm pumped.

And I'll make sure you send one your way. Sounds good to me. Sounds great.

All right. Thanks for joining us today, Phil. Hey, thank you for having me guys.

Paul. Great to see you again. Let's see you.

I'll see you guys soon. Thank you. Thank you.

So that was Phil Angadie. I didn't know if Phil had 14 albums. 14.

Amazing. Yes, it is. That's a, that's quite a career.

Yes. He's, he's, he's got a whole page on Spotify. You can listen to his music all day long.

That's pretty cool. That is very cool. Not a lot of people can say that.

He's got a great new CD coming up too. Yes, he does. This Thursday, May 26th at Martyrs are releasing his new music.

He'll be doing a live show there. That's right. Doing the whole album.

They're doing the whole, whole album front to back. And some new, some old stuff too, I guess. Yeah.

And if you're a, if you're a Phil fan, you're probably going to really like this new album because this is the first one he hasn't mixed himself. He had a producer do it for him. So it should be interesting.

Right. A whole new sound. And if you're not, if you've never heard of Phil, I definitely recommend you check him out and check out his music.

Right. Phil, Phil's a good, good guy. Like I said, I've worked with him many times in the past.

And he's a good dude, a good guitar player, a great musician too. Yes, he is. Yes, he is.

So, and he's also playing with Lindsay Cochran. Right. He's doing a great moments in vinyl with him.

And that's a pretty, that's a pretty cool gig. I mean, I'm sure you folks have heard our past episode with Lindsay and great moments in vinyl. And, uh, I recommend you definitely go out and see them, them too.

That's very, very entertaining. And if you haven't checked it out and you can, uh, fill in Gaddy's name is also mentioned in Jay Geppner's episode. That's right.

So, uh, you know, let's go back and listen to Jay Geppner's episode. After you finished listening to all our podcasts, cause you have to listen to all ours first, make sure you check out our buddy Jeff Sismelik. He's got a, uh, podcast called My Three Songs.

He invites friends over and they discuss their three favorite songs. It's a pretty great podcast. Give that a listen.

Alrighty, we will. And as usual coming to you from the Illinois Rock and Roll Museum on Route 66 in beautiful downtown Joliet from our state of the art studio, make sure you, uh, become a charter member. Museum's going to be opening soon.

Don't know, don't know exactly when, but it's getting really close. June 5th, they're having their second year, second year inductions at the, uh, at the Rialto Square Theater. That's right.

Second round of a hall of fame inductions, some great names being inducted. So be sure and check that out. There might still be tickets left.

I'm not sure. Last year it sold out. So check that out, check us out.

And I think it's about time we check out. Okay. Check it, check it out.

We'll see you next week. Over and out, Roger. 10-4, good buddy.

Ray, Ray the roadie. That's right. All right.

Have a good day. See you guys next week. Thanks for listening.

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