Hey, this is Paul Martin. And Ray the Roadie. Oh, you're not Raimondo this week? Not this week.

Oh, okay. Right. We're staying domestic.

Okay. For the Rock and Roll Chicago podcast. That's right.

And I am so excited this week. I cannot believe we're going to be meeting with Alyssa Milano and Shannon Doherty and Kaylee Cuoco. I mean, it's I'm so excited, man.

And some of my favorite actresses. What? Aren't we? Aren't we interviewing the cast from Charmed? No, no, no. The TV series? No, no, no.

You get that. All right. You gotta listen to when I talk to you.

You know? I thought I listened. I thought I heard you say something. No, we're meeting today with the Brooklyn Charmers.

I thought you said we're going to Brooklyn to meet with the cast from Charmed. Man. No, no, no.

The Brooklyn Charmers, we're right here in Chicago. They're from Chicago. Okay.

And they are the Steely Dan Tribute Band. And we talked with Colin Peterick, Kevin Campbell, Sean Briskey, and Alex Zurovica. And we missed out Frankie Lightning, I guess.

Nick also called Frankie Manella. But we talked with them about Steely Dan and about their tribute band to Steely Dan. And they've got some, we've got a couple of shows coming up that are going to be out on Facebook soon.

Just some Facebook shows and some YouTube shows coming up. So that we can all enjoy while getting out of this COVID craziness. That's right.

That's right. Put it up on your big screen in your theater room. That's right.

So let's get to the Brooklyn Charmers and not Charmed. Not Charmed. I got it.

TV series. I like these guys too. All right, good.

Brooklyn Charmers. Here you go. All right.

Good afternoon, everybody. We're meeting today with the Brooklyn Charmers, the Steely Dan tribute band. How you guys doing? We've got Colin Peterick, plays keys and vocals with us.

How you doing, Colin? Great. Thank you. Kevin Campbell, bass and vocals.

How you doing, Kevin? Fantastic. Thanks for having us. Sean Briskey, plays guitar and backs and vocals.

I abbreviated vocals, but backs. Hey, guys. How you doing? Good.

And Alex Cervica, percussionist. Now, we're missing Frank Manella, right? Frankie Lightning is under the weather. He's taking it easy today.

All right. Well, I'm glad you guys could join us. How's everybody doing? I'm here too, Paul.

Oh, Ray the Roadie is here. Yeah. Don't forget, I'm here too.

So you're Brooklyn Charmers, although you're all from Chicago. How long has the band been together, first of all? Oh, man. Does anybody remember? The band's been together for two years.

I remember getting a call from Colin in October of 2018 if I'd like to come to a jam session and play five Steely Dan songs. So two years. I see.

Well, that was actually one of my questions, Kevin, was, are you guys Steely Dan fans? Or did you kind of work your way into it? Or how did it all come about? I think we all probably have a different Steely Dan story as to how we came into them. But I think all of us have been pretty avid fans for at least a decade. I got to know him in high school, and I know Colin says he heard Asia on the radio and his life was forever changed.

It was just one of these things we've always loved. And four of us, Alex excluded, have known each other for at least 15 years. So when we got together, or when the call was made to get together, we were like, yeah, this makes total sense.

We've known each other for this long. We've loved this music for this long. So why not do this? So Alex, you're kind of the new guy to this? Some respect, I think.

I've known these guys and played with them in different projects over the last, I don't know, five years or so. More than that, maybe like seven years. Yeah, yeah, I guess it is more than that.

And so yeah, they put together this group and originally had a different drummer. And then I got the call to come try it out. I didn't know if it was going to work out.

But I went in there and it was fun. Alex was actually our third drummer. We were auditioning drummers.

And by the time I called Alex, I was like, I should have just called Alex right away. I don't know what I was thinking. So you must put the band together, is that right? I mean, in a way, I mean, like Kevin said, we, me, Kevin, Sean and Frank all went to high school together.

So it was almost once the, yeah, I made the call to all the guys. But once it was in the air, it kind of just came together naturally. Yeah, I've known Alex for like seven years working on various other bands and studio projects.

So he was the obvious, obvious call after, you know, after we needed a drummer. So you put this band together and now have you been playing, how are you surviving COVID right now? I know you're doing some online shows, right? Yeah, we're kind of just looking forward to next year when we've got a bunch of shows and the dates and, you know, we're going to wait to see what happens after the election and after the new year and see if those dates stand. But in the meantime, we're putting together, you know, video content, we're recording new songs with video, we're doing streaming concerts, you know, once a month, once every two months, you know, just pushing out content, keeping the fans engaged.

You know, it's really, really all we can do at the moment. You know, it's really just like a building, building moment. Is there any, you guys working on any original music? Individually, yeah.

I'm working with Kevin on a solo album, and it's turning out awesome. But as far as like Brooklyn Charmers writing and recording original music, that's not really in the future right now. I'm not saying it'll never happen, but we're not really talking about that right now.

I would like to see that. That's just me. There's been talk about writing and recording Your Gold Teeth 3, but we haven't, we haven't So the name came from the song Brooklyn, always a charm around me, I imagine, right? I mean, you could have picked a number of songs, the names would be in there, right? We tried.

We tried. Who wants to tell the story? Colin, tell them the showbiz kids story. Well, I wanted, I wanted, before I even called Kevin, like, I think Kevin and Sean were the first people I called to, I was like, hey, let's, let's make a Steely Dan tribute band and let's, let's make the best, the best one in the world.

Like, let's just do everything we can to make it awesome. And we're going to be called showbiz kids. There you go.

I came up with the band name before I even, before our first practice. And I thought it was just so cool. And I was like thinking like, oh my God, we're going to come out on stage to, to showbiz kids, you know, the song and it's going to be great.

And we recorded our first video. I bought the showbiz kids custom drum head. I got designed the logo.

It was going to be great. We recorded the video. Video gets a quarter million views in the first week.

And a week later we get a message from this guy in Florida. He's like, hey, we're the showbiz kids and we're a Steely Dan tribute band. And you know, he didn't exactly threaten legal action, but he, he wanted us to, he implored us to change the name.

So you want to let you know who I'm just wanting to let you know, right? Yeah. So after some, you know, soul searching and stuff, we kind of got together and we said, listen, this isn't a fight that we want to die for. Let's just come up with a new name and you know, keep everybody happy.

So it probably took us maybe a month to agree on a new name. I have a list on my phone of all the crazy possible names, you know, like the daddies who don't live in New York City no more was one of them. And you know, there was like, we were trying to make pun off of Steely Dan, like Steely Dam or, you know, there's a band called Nearly Dan, you know, something like gimmicky like that.

But at the end of the day, Kevin threw out Brooklyn Charmers and it kind of just stuck. And that's the one we kept coming back to. Now, I know Steely Dan started out in 72, which I don't think any of you were probably even born back then.

No. But, but, but I mean, I know you said you heard Asia, right? And that changed your life. Yeah.

Yeah. That was in driving to driving to school, junior year of high school. And I turned on like, maybe, you know, 97.1, the drive.

And it was right in the middle section during the saxophone solo and the drum solo. And I didn't even I didn't know who the band was, because the radio back then doesn't tell you who it is. And I remember I got to school and I was like late because I was sitting in my car waiting for the song to finish so I could see if the radio announcer was going to say who the band was.

And sure enough, they said it was Steely Dan. I was like, holy shit, like I've heard of this band before. Like I remember hearing Do It Again, like on the radio and stuff, but I had no idea.

So after school, I went to Best Buy, and I bought all the CDs I could find. And I just, you know, the rest is history. But yeah, since then, since that day, I've been basically totally obsessed with them.

And what about any of you other guys? Sean, how did you find your way to Steely Dan? You know, it's hard to pinpoint a time, but if I had to fabricate one here, my best guess is it was somewhere in like junior year of high school, senior year of high school, somewhere in there. I started kind of looking at jazz guitar and joined jazz band at school and tried to start figuring out some of those bigger chord shapes and that kind of thing. And that naturally led me towards Steely Dan.

At first, I wasn't really, to be honest, they were kind of an acquired taste. Maybe that's the case for a lot of people, but they were just so poppy and yacht rocky and that kind of thing that, you know, it took a little while for me to kind of understand their aesthetic and their sound. But then again, through some kind of studying jazz and stuff, I kind of got into that playing.

And then by the time I was in college, I knew the whole discography sort of thing. So yeah, it was somewhere in like late high school. I probably got really into them.

And it was mainly because of the challenge that it put on my instrument. What kind of music were you, what kind of other music are you guys into besides Steely Dan? I guess I'll just finish. Like before Steely, I was really into just your general classic rock.

Me and Kevin grew up learning how to play in his basement, you know, The Who and Zeppelin and Pink Floyd and that kind of thing. And then high school hit and that's, you know, when I started hanging around Colin, that's when the prog rock phase hit. And that hasn't really left us.

That's, you know, Genesis and King Crimson and all that. So yeah, prog rock, your typical classic rock, I mean, jazz. And, you know, ever since college, I've been really into jazz.

I still listen to a lot of that and fusion. That's kind of me. My two biggest influences in my life have been King Crimson when I first heard them and Steely Dan when I first heard them.

So King Crimson, you're going back a ways now. Yes. Yeah.

Great album. Just turned 51 years. Did it really? Came out in 1970.

1969. Yeah. Alex, how about you? Um, for me, it was kind of always like a staple of music of my childhood in that my parents are massive Steely Dan fans and always have been.

So, you know, just driving around in the car, they were playing it all the time. And I didn't really take notice. It was just something that I heard a lot of.

So it was interesting later on when I started listening to them more, I was like, I know this song. I know this song. I knew a lot of them just from like, you know, years past.

Um, I saw Eric Clapton in like 2001. My parents took me to see him and Steve Gadd was playing with him then. And I had just started taking drum lessons then.

And so that was my guy. Like I saw him and I, this was like pre-YouTube, but I was able to find like DVDs and stuff of just watching Steve Gadd. So from that, obviously it took me to Asia, you know.

And so that was a big part of it for me too. And then really my entry was also like in college, high school area. Um, I actually did a lot of running back then, which I definitely do not now.

But Steely Dan was like my running music. I don't really know why. I think that was when I started to revisit, you know, all those things that I had heard when I was younger from my parents.

And, um, it just took off from there. So college, I think really was when I started listening to them a lot. And then I kind of faded away from them a little bit.

I typically, honestly, most of the stuff that I listened to in high school and college was like pretty heavy, progressive metal stuff. Your Tool, your Porcupine Tree, those type of bands. Um, but as I've gotten older, I've kind of mellowed out with my playing and what I listened to.

And Steely Dan was like that perfect area of, you know, complexity, but not for complexity's sake. Really interesting drumming and playing and like just such a unique sound. So there was a lot for me there to delve into.

Do you have any favorite drummers, Alex? From Steely Dan or just in general? Oh, just in general. Any, you know, any drummers that are out there? I mean, obviously Steve Gadd. I really like Gavin Harrison from Porcupine Tree.

Danny Carey from Tool. I saw Steely Dan with Keith Carlock, obviously. The last couple of times I saw them and he's incredible.

Vinny Kalyuta, Terry Bozio. I mean, there's so many out there, but yeah. Have you gotten to meet any? I met Danny Carey from Tool once.

I met Gavin Harrison from Porcupine Tree. Mike Mangini from, actually, he plays in Dream Theater now. He was my teacher when I was in school, in college.

And at that point, like he left my class basically, left the school to go join Dream Theater at that point. So that was a cool experience. He was a big influence too.

Hold on, it's Kevin's turn. What is the question again? Some of your other influences besides Steely Dan. Okay, I'm a big vocals guy.

I love really dense vocal harmonies and strong singers. So I love Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys. Crosby, Stills, Nash.

Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young. Anything David Crosby does, I'm just so in on. And I think that's why I really love Steely Dan because they have fused together this prog rock that Colin and Sean were talking about and these really dense vocal harmonies.

I came to Steely Dan in a really cool way. It's the only band I've ever listened to from beginning to end. I think with these bands, we were born in 89 and 90.

It's really easy to listen to them out of sequence. You listen to Wish You Were Here and then you check out Piper at the Gates of Dawn. You're like, what the hell happened here in 1967? So, but with Steely Dan, I had heard some things my sophomore year of high school, like Bad Sneakers and Reelin' in the Years and loved it.

Then my dad ended up getting me one of those big box sets where you get every song they ever did. It was just a four-disc box set of Steely Dan's entire career. I guess not entire career because not their 90s stuff, but through Gaucho, their 1980 release.

And I listened to it start to finish and it just blew my mind. You're in this can't buy a thrill phase where they're like a classic rock band, but then you get to countdown to Ecstasy and then they're doing some progressive things. I remember being like 25 or 26 and talking to Sean.

He's like, what's your favorite Steely Dan album? And I'm just like, I don't even know the albums. I just know this four-disc box set that I listen to all the way through all the time. But I think the vocals and the really interesting song forms were what drew me in.

Go ahead. Go ahead, Kevin. Were you gonna say something? I was just gonna say I know Kevin's a guy that appreciates hooks, like pop hooks, and Steely Dan has gems of hooks everywhere.

Oh yeah, everywhere. So much ear candy. Ear candy, yeah.

Where will it go? Exactly. To find Columbia. So that's a hook that catches me in.

That's a good one. Now, Colin, you do a lot of singing and Kevin, you do some singing too, correct? Yeah. Colin, you do most of the vocals, is that correct? Yeah, for the most part, I handle all of the Fagin vocal parts, vocal lines, like the lead vocals.

We try to be pretty religious to the structure. Like so if, for instance, on the song, Brooklyn Knows the Charmer, under me, Kevin sings it because Fagin didn't sing that song on the album. And then Kevin also sings Dirty Work.

And then on the same album, Midnight Cruiser is sung by yet another vocalist. And we have Sean sing that one. And then, of course, Sean, Kevin, and Frank all have rigorous background vocal duty because there's so many background vocals in all these songs.

Three part, four part sometimes. Yeah, now some of the lyrics, do you understand all the lyrics? I don't. I don't think they're meant to be understood at times.

There are some things like the Custardome that literally they just invented. Nobody really knows what they were talking about. Yeah, because some of the stuff is a little out there.

It doesn't seem to connect. One line doesn't seem to connect to another one. Yeah.

They had a very dark and weird sense of humor when it came to lyrics. And a lot of their songs, like Everyone's Gone to the Movies, is probably the only pop song about a child molester that I've heard. And it's an awesome song.

Hot take, wow. Well, those were different times back then when they were writing that stuff, too. That's right.

Warren Zivon had one, I think. Oh, okay. That makes sense.

Who did most of the lyric? I mean, was it Walter Becker or Dale Fagan that did? Do you know? It's like a Lennon-McCartney. I think Fagan probably wrote most of the lyrics. Becker definitely had input.

I don't know exactly the split, but they had a partnership, not unlike Lennon-McCartney, where every song is credited to Becker and Fagan. And they were a duo. That's the way they did it.

And they pretty much were the only two members of the band to appear in every single album. Yeah. They went through a lot of different musicians.

Yeah, yeah. They stopped touring in 74 and became a studio band. I've always told Sean, I tell people that Steely Dan is like the Beatles of the 70s.

They followed a very, very similar trajectory. They started off touring traditionally, and then they just locked themselves in the studio and stopped touring the same way the Beatles did. So yeah, they stopped touring in 74 and just brought in musicians to their whim.

They said, this song needs a sax solo by this guy. This song needs to be played drums by Bernard Purdy. And this song is Steve Gadd.

They tailored their studio musicians on their whim. They didn't have any allegiance to any band members at that point, which I think, not only did they get tired of the road and touring, but they just wanted the flexibility of doing whatever they wanted in the studio with no hang-ups. Now, you guys have quite a few videos out there.

I know it's on your website. And you do those at your studio, Colin? Yeah, yes. The Jam Lab in Brookfield, Illinois.

Today's podcast is brought to you by the Jam Lab in Brookfield. So you've got a nice setup there. You can do these videos, and you can also have an audience there too, right, Craig? Yeah, not so much right now with the COVID.

Well, right, right. How many people does it hold? It holds about 120. Okay.

But only 50 now. Right, which may even change soon. Yeah, exactly.

So now you guys are kind of like the late 70s band, because you're stuck in a studio now. Exactly. No, but I think the goal of the band when we started was to kind of continue where the original lineup left off.

The first two albums was Becker, Fagan, Jim Hodder on drums, Skunk Baxter on guitar, Denny Diaz on guitar. And they had, you know, guests like, who's the guitarist that played the solo in Reelin' in the Ears? Elliot Randall. Elliot Randall.

But the five-piece, that's kind of where we picked up. So like, we're playing songs like Kings and, you know, songs that, and like, turning that heartbeat over again, that Steely Dan themselves never had a chance to play live. And for people to, like, one of our goals starting the band was, let's just play the songs that are so beloved from the original albums, play them live as faithfully as we can in front of people, because it's a spectacle seeing the music that you know and love happening in front of you.

And people have never had a chance to see Steely Dan play, you know, turn that heartbeat over again live ever, because they never played it live. They stopped touring. So one of our dreams was to just like do that song and do all their other great songs as best as we can in a live setting, you know, with no strings attached.

And we stand up there with no sheet music. You know, we rehearse every week. And there's a reason why, you know, we have a rule, you know, we're not allowed to have sheet music on stage because we, the music is in our, you know, we want it to reflect, you know, it's in our bones, in our skin, you know.

True. I'm kind of old school too. I don't believe in sheet music.

I mean, maybe it's easy for some words once in a while, but sure. Yeah, yeah. I mean, big letters in your case now.

Well, yeah, but yeah, that happens. So, oh, I know. So what are some of your favorite songs to play live? Which ones do you love to do? Oh, wow.

You know, it's hard to pick favorites because we're like, what are we, probably like 30 songs deep now with our repertoire somewhere around there. I guess the thing I could express is every song has its own challenge. Like ones that, you know, and then for each of us, like for example, I know that, like I asked Colin, what is the easiest song that you have to play in the set? And he mentioned Peg.

And for Kevin, I think Peg is like one of the hardest songs. It is so hard. It is so hard.

So it's funny how like one guy's, you know, walking in the park is the next guy's kind of demon. So it keeps you on your feet. That's what I like most about it is our set is so diverse that one song I have to like really, really be thinking about it.

And the next song I can kind of just strum a D chord, you know, like it's kind of, it's interesting like that. But anything with, you know, where we've like kind of heavily arranged it, we're not just going through the motions. I've really dug that.

That's why I personally look forward to like when we get to Asia and that kind of stuff, because it's a little more composed and takes you a lot of places. Not to say that Ricky isn't fun, but you know, that's just kind of a one and done. You just play through it.

Love the song, but I love the stuff with a lot of depth and a lot of diversity, you know, the gold teeths that turned that heartbeat over again. That's kind of my take. The progressive side.

So you like the songs that keep you on your feet. Yeah. I like the progressive stuff.

Yeah. We do My Old School, which was never meant to be like a song for a five-piece band to play because there's horns and background vocals, you know, female background vocals. And that song just came together the first couple of times we played it.

And we're like, this arrangement is working well. We have Frank doing all the horn lines on a fuzzy guitar. And it quickly turned into a fan favorite.

And there's an awesome drum solo at the end. I think that's probably the song that we do the best. And it's just the most rewarding to play because, you know, it's so, like, I put on my sunglasses and I go, and I feel like, I feel like Donald Fagan doing it.

It was just like, I feel like the animal energy. It's such a, it's such a great tune. So who hates that song? No, but I think what we do the best is like the rockers, you know, the Kings, Green Earrings, Josie, Reelin' in the Years.

Like those songs are just so rockin' and so good as a five piece. And I mean, I have, the whole set is, the whole set is a lot of fun, but when we get to rock out, you know, that's when, that's when sparks fly. So now Colin, I know you play, you play keyboards in the band, but you also play guitar too, right? Uh, not really.

I play, I can, I can play guitar. I use it as a songwriting tool mostly, but yeah, not so much. I see.

And speaking of songwriting, you've got an EP out of your own, right? Yeah, I've got some, some new music out on my Facebook page, YouTube page. Just search Colin Peterick and you'll find it. I don't think much is on Spotify.

Oh, there's some stuff on Spotify, but I've got, I'm working on something new right now. Very good. And Kevin, you said you're, Colin mentioned that you're doing a solo project too? Yeah, just at the beginning of quarantine, I really wanted to do, do my own stuff, see what I could do, see what I could come up with on my own.

Sean and I, we've been in many original bands before, so original music isn't anything new for, I don't think any of us, but, so I think I'll just be releasing it under my full name, Kevin Edward Campbell, because my name is pretty common. And I'm sure when it's going to be done, we, we, we just started, Colin and I just started tracking, and Alex, Alex is all over it. He's, he's the best damn drummer I know.

So all I have to do is pick him up and buy him a coffee and he plays these amazing drum parts on my songs. He's great. So you, you called him first, unlike, unlike Colin, when he called him, it was the third call Colin made, right? Exactly.

I called him first, Alex. I was playing, I was trying to play politics a little bit. I love you, Alex.

Love you, love you, love you. You guys, I'm just happy it worked out. So, so now have you played in any other bands that we may know of, or, or, or played around Chicago with some other bands? So Kevin plays in this Joe Satriani tribute.

No. No. You can find it on YouTube.

No, Sean found a funny YouTube video the other day of this bass player named Kevin Campbell playing in a Satriani tribute. He's like, when do you have time to do this? When were you going to tell us you were, you were a part of this? But I think we all play in a ton of bands. I'm kind of in the wedding band scene a little bit, shamefully.

So that's nice. I don't want to promote that. But I also play in this band, Great Moments in Vinyl.

We do like tributes to actual records like Paul Simon's Graceland, Allman Brothers, Live at the Fillmore, everything. It's a really fun group. And I think we're all just very versatile guys that whenever we get a phone call, it can be like, hey, this Grateful Dead band needs you.

Can you do it? Hey, this Pink Floyd band needs you. Sean and I were in a Pink Floyd tribute called The Mudmen. So just wait until one of these bands takes off and then we don't have to take as many phone calls.

It's good to gig though. I'm sure it's nice to be able to get those phone calls. Yeah, I think it's something we all really, really miss.

I've mentioned several times on our show here that back in my day, you were with one band and one band only. But it's great now to see guys being able to gig with other bands and job themselves out, even if it's just for a night. Yeah, we understand that the industry is very brutal.

And if we can form a tight knit community in Chicago area with musicians and friends and sub in and sub out and do this and do that, it just makes for a better world, easier world for a musician to live in. Have any of you had to sub out of this band and have someone sub in for you? We have, yeah. It's kind of a long story, but it sucks because if we ever need a guitar sub, they have to learn like 20 iconic solos.

Right, right. So it's like, hey, do you want to learn 20 iconic solos for like 300 bucks? And most of the time the answer is no. But we haven't had to do it so far.

There was an amazing guitarist named Matt Hines and he was going to sub for us for a show and then it didn't work out. And then he was going to sub for us for another show, but then COVID happened. So he learned all these solos and all these songs and he sent us videos of him playing the Bodhisattva solo.

Just not an easy solo to play. And poor guy hasn't been able to play with us yet. Because the show that he was going to be on got canceled due to COVID.

So shout out to Matt Hines. We're going to play with you soon, man. We love you.

Now I just have to ask you if you've ever, Callan, have you ever written anything with your dad at all? Not recently, but I'm more on the production end with my dad. Like he'll come and do videos recently, like stuff for corporate videos and stuff for live streams for stuff. And I'm there with the cameras and the soundboard and doing post-production or playing drums with him.

Kevin plays bass on some of his stuff. And so, yeah, we don't have really the songwriter, father-son relationship, but we have a kind of a behind the scenes production arrangement that works out a lot better because I'd rather keep him as my dad and not as a guy that is my co-writer because it's too tricky to do that. I appreciate that.

That's very cool. But it's cool that you work with him behind the scenes. Yeah, right.

I witnessed a really cool father-son moment. One of the last times I was in the studio with Callan and Jim and Callan's on, he's on the mixing board, he's on the production end, like he said, but he's also playing drums on the song. So he's getting everything started and then he's running over to the drum kit.

And you just didn't like the sound of the snare drum or something. You were obsessing with it for like a good five to seven minutes and he's running back and forth. And Jim just says to me, I love it when he gets obsessive.

So you play drums as well, Callan? Yeah, I do. Not like Alex, but I do play drums. I'm pretty good at faking it.

Pretty darn good. Did you consider calling yourself for the band? I could probably play through, I could probably fake my way through a number of songs, but I would never, no, no. No, you guys don't do any, any other thing, any other songs besides Steely Dan, do you? Joked about it.

No. April Fool's joke or something, but. Oh yeah.

We were going to do like, well, we shouldn't tell them because we might do it next year. Yeah. But no, just Steely Dan because, you know, we wanted to focus, there's so many, so many tribute bands, like cover bands and tribute bands.

And the one way to set yourself apart and elevate your brand is to just do one band and do it as best as you can. You know, it's better for marketing that way, at least from our perspective. So I see you have an online show coming up.

Is that correct? Yes, yes. Black Friday, November 27th. Okay.

We'll be doing a live stream. Oh, I see Black Friday. I see what you did there, Black Friday.

That's right. And I think we're going to start at 7pm and it's going to be cool. And it's going to be on your Facebook page? Yeah, it'll be actually on Facebook and YouTube.

So youtube.com slash Brooklyn Charmers, facebook.com slash Brooklyn Charmers. Yep. Also, we're going to be, we played a city winery.

We played the 15th and the 16th in October. And we videotaped and recorded the Friday show, which was the second night, like when we were like, got all the kinks worked out and the band was on fire, you know, kind of thing. So we're going to be premiering that show on Halloween, on the 31st, on just a few days.

So that'll be a pre-recorded live stream on our Facebook and YouTube pages. And you should check that out as well, because that was a really, really magical, cool night. We did a socially distanced concert with 50 people and it was really awesome.

I saw that. That was indoors? Yeah. It was one of the last shows, you know, that City Winery did before the new order came that there's no indoor dining and stuff.

So they're not doing shows there anymore. We got in just in time. It's a great place.

So where can we find you social media-wise besides Facebook and YouTube? You have a website as well? Yeah, www.brookmancharmers.com. And there's merch there and videos and stuff. But yeah, mostly Facebook is where the updates happen. Very good.

Well, thank you guys for joining us today. Yeah, thank you very much. Hey, can we give a shout out to our sound guy, Gary Jerkatis? Yes.

He's like our sixth member. The five of us, we work super hard to sound good, but he is such an iconic part of this band. And honestly, one of the best sound guys probably in the whole US.

So if you've ever seen us, you'd be like, wow, they sound good. It's Gary doing that. Shout out to Gary.

All right. Let's hear it for Gary. Very good.

He's at every rehearsal. He gets, you know, we split income six ways to include him. He's a part of the band and we love you, Gary.

We do. He drives the van. Sometimes he drives the van.

A little scary, but yeah. Yeah, it's a little scary. I like when Kevin drives the van.

Kevin's the best driver, for sure. That's very cool that you give him a shout out. I know I ran sound for quite a while and I appreciate that you get a shout out to him.

That's very cool. Definitely. Well, once again, guys, thank you very much for joining us.

One final shout out to Frankie Lightning, who's not here. He's one of the guys that is like the secret sauce in our band. He's always coming up with crazy stuff that wasn't in the original recordings.

And he kind of adds a little bit of spice to our little soup of Steely Dan music. So shout out to Frankie Lightning. Couldn't be here.

Feel better, man. Frankie Lightning. Yeah.

Is that his nickname? Yeah. Any of the other guys have nicknames, too? Not any that we want to talk about on air. Yeah.

Oh, come on. Thanks again, guys, for joining us. We appreciate it.

Thank you for having us. See you out there soon, hopefully. Definitely.

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Them guys are quite knowledgeable about the whole Steely Dan thing, man. It's like, you know, for guys their age to be into their music, it's quite amazing. And they are very, very talented.

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