Hey, this is Paul Martin and Ray the Roadie for the Rock and Roll Chicago podcast. How's it going today, Ray? What are you doing over there? I got some sheet metal. I'm riveting it together.

Oh, I see. Is this bothering you? Yeah, it's kind of annoying right now. Can you stop while we... Alright, hold on a sec.

While we do this intro here. Okay, I'm done for now. That was your rivet gun? That was my rivet gun.

I see. So you see how nice my sheet metal looks? Oh yeah, it looks great. It's nice and shiny.

It's shiny. It's held together. Yes, yes, with rivets.

Yeah, that's right. Okay. There used to be a cartoon thing in the paper.

It was like a dog named Rivets. Really? Yeah. What was that about? About a dog.

A dog's name was Rivets. Okay. So I haven't read the paper in years.

No? No. I'm surprised you know how to read. I'm surprised too.

But you know what? I can write in cursive. Oh, so can I. So I got people nowadays like what's that? Yeah. Yeah.

So how's your health is good? My health is fine. Thank you. Me too.

I'm still chugging along. We're doing nothing. Everything's closed.

Everything's... I've got plenty of toilet paper. Do you? Yeah. Awesome.

Awesome. Yeah. I finally found a use for all my mismatched socks.

That's a good idea. Yeah, just wash them. Yeah.

Use them over and over again. Okay. So who are we interviewing this week? I forgot now.

You know what? The funny, the odd thing is, it's Rosie and the Rivets. Oh, that's ironic that I was riveting. Yes, you're a sheet metal.

And I understand you find me quite riveting too. Yeah. So yeah.

But yeah, we met with Rosie and with Frank. Frank and Nino, right? Frank and Nino. We had a nice talk with them and about their band.

And Christine, actually, aka Rosie. Aka Rosie, yes, for some people out there. But yeah, we had a nice talk with them.

And let's see. Let's see what they have to say for themselves. Let's go and do it.

Okay. How you doing? We're meeting today with Frank and Nino and Rosie from Rosie and the Rivets. How are you guys doing? So good.

We're doing very well. Thank you so much for having us. Good to see you guys.

Thanks for coming out. Thanks for having us. So I know the band's been together a couple of years.

Tell us what happened and how you guys started. It's a family show, Frank. That's a good story.

We, Christine and myself, or Rosie, sorry, Rosie and myself started dating and eventually the guitars came out and we sang together and I didn't know she was a singer. She didn't know she was a singer. And right then and there, we decided to start doing something.

We weren't sure what it was going to be. We started out as a duo and had a little bit of success. Yeah.

We started out and we called ourselves the Jerks. And it was really hard to get work because people thought we were teenagers, punks or something. And we were singing Moon River and Buddy Holly songs, things like that.

Cool Jerk? You were singing Cool Jerk? Yeah. That was kind of the pun. We really liked the movie The Jerk and we were doing Tonight You Belong to Me, like Bernadette Peters and Steve Martin, but we decided to change the name just because, yeah.

Well, people started dancing to us as a duo with the rhythm being in the guitars, as the Beatles said early on. But we thought, what if we added the bass and the drums? And that's how the full band started. Just dancers.

I see. Now, what were you doing before that? Because I know, Frank, you've had some history of playing. Did you play too, Rosie? No, I was a flight attendant.

Oh, okay. And that one time that Frank came over and we were playing guitars, he said, what if I asked you to leave the airlines and play Buddy Holly music till two in the morning with your friends drinking wine? I said, sold. But the thing was, I said, we have to work every weekend.

I have to be able to pay for health insurance and all that sort of thing. So we worked every single weekend from the day that I left the airlines. He has kept this band going.

It's heart and soul right there. Stop it. It's a team effort.

So you quit shortly thereafter, right? Yes. Buddy Holly and wine. Yes.

Easy sell. So you didn't, you weren't playing any music then prior to that, right? No. No.

And what about you, Frank? I was in a band called American English playing the John Lennon role. And I was... Were you at the time you met Rosie? I was. But I was kind of looking to get out of that.

It was starting to become like Groundhog Day. Every day you woke up, put the wig on saying she loves you, you know, every day, pretty much. So I was doing that and kind of looking for something else.

And then we got this together and it was, it was an easy transition. You know, I never really stopped playing music. I just went from Beatles to Elvis.

Yeah. We still work the Beatles in a little bit here and there. We do.

We do some Beatles too. Yeah. Yeah.

Very good. Now you have history with any, you've been playing guitar obviously a long time. I have.

And you play Gretsch Guitars, I see. I do. I do.

We're endorsed by Gretsch. They, they love us. We love them.

Yeah. Thank you, Gretsch. I actually started out as a drummer though.

Oh really? Yeah. And realized that drummers don't get girls. So I taught myself to play the guitar.

Yeah. Yeah. Guitar works.

Yeah. Yeah. Clearly.

Oh God. How long did you play with American English? I was with them for five years. Prior to that, I was with a band called the Fab Four, which is kind of a nationally touring tribute.

Right. Oh, okay. Yeah.

I was a Beatle for about 15 years. Wow. Yeah.

Oh, very nice. Yeah. It's more than Pete Best can say.

It's more than Pete, it's more than the Beatles can say. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, definitely more than a Beatles. That's true. That's true.

So, so now, you know, you guys are doing Elvis, you're doing Buddy Holly and kind of a rockabilly sound, right? Yes. Yes, sir. So describe why you went to that, you know? Well, it was kind of organic.

I mean, we were just playing the songs we liked when we were still the jerks. Well, we're still- And a lot of songs with harmony. So Everly Brothers.

Everly Brothers and early Beatles and things like that. And, you know, there was no real formula. We just kind of gravitated towards the music we loved and grew up with and people just responded.

So we decided to get more serious. And like Rosie said, we added the bass and drums and, you know, but there was no real grand plan to, you know, oh, let's be a retro band or an oldies band or a rockabilly band. It's just people danced when we played Tutti Frutti and we thought that's a good job.

Yeah. Yeah. So now you talk about the other guy, the rest of the band.

Who else is in the band? We have Cody Saragusa on bass and Cody was with the Million Dollar Quartet and the Buddy Holly Story. And we have Derek Martens on drums. I know Derek.

I know Derek from his days with J.P. and the Kids. Yes. Yes.

Good kid. Oh, yeah. He talks about a lot of adventures, misadventures with J.P. and the Kids.

Yes. Yeah. I know they used to come into the casino there where I used to work.

And so I got to know him because his name is the same, my son. My son is called, his name is Derek Martin. Oh, OK.

But his is Martens. Yes. But otherwise, and so we kind of bonded because of that.

Yeah. I call him Daryl. So I keep it straight.

As long as he plays the right beat, right? That's right. You're bad with names. I'm terrible with names.

Our own name, our own band. I was just getting nervous. I'm just getting used to being on the microphone five years ago.

And I was introducing the band and just called us a complete different name of another band that we know and love, you know, locally. That we work with. That we work with.

And I was like, you know, we're not that band. They're great. We love them.

And so they'll never let me forget it. Yeah, well, that happens. I've done that myself.

Thank you. I play in two different bands and I've accidentally said the wrong name on stage. OK.

Now, Frank, not just me. Now we'll give you some reprieve on that one. Appreciate that.

So do you do you have any original music that you do? We're working on some original things. Just it's a matter of finding the time, you know, but we Christine writes, I write, we write a find a way to integrate it with what we do, you know, to to get get that sound, you know, sandwiched between, you know, Buddy Holly and the Everly Brothers. We do some shows where people are listening, they're sitting, they're watching.

And then we do a lot of shows where it's just dance, dance, dance. So if we threw in an original song, all of a sudden, everybody sat down. Right.

Put a wrench in the gears. But it's on it's on the to do list. There's been a lot of requests for it.

Although after they hear it, they might change. No, no, no, no. We'll get to it.

I don't think so. Yeah. So, Rosie, do you have any kind of musical background? He said you do some of the writing.

You just kind of pick this up. Yeah, I just I don't. This is a terrible story because it just sounds awful, except I'm watching all these Beatle documentaries.

I'm a Beatle freak. And I was listening to Paul McCartney talking. Do you know, I sat down and we had to do this.

We had this deadline. And so John Lennon and I sat down and we wrote 25,000 songs in one afternoon. And I was like, these 14, 13 year old boys can sit down and decide they're going to have to write a song.

This grown woman is going to sit down and write a song. And I did. And it's nowhere near Love Me Do or any of that.

But I was like, if you if you give yourself a deadline, you say you're going to do it good or bad, write it down. And that's that's how that started. Sure, sure.

If you put your mind to anything, I guess. Yeah, exactly. And again, it's not Love Me Do, but it's it's Do Me Love.

I don't know. No, it's good. You don't have any bad habits that you've.

Right. Not yet. Right.

So now it's something brand new. Frank, have you had any other writing with any other bands or. Not really.

I've I've I've done a lot of recording. You know, bands would call me in to play guitar drums earlier on. But not really.

I would collaborate, but nothing, nothing of note. I started really early in doing the Beatle gig. I was about 19 when I basically quit college and started touring the world as a Beatle impersonator.

So that's that's taken up a good chunk of my my career until we got Rosie and the Rivets. So this is all new to you. This is pretty new to me as well.

Yeah. So when did you start playing guitar then? I was about 18, 19. You know, I was a drummer before then.

Right. I still am at heart. I'm still tapping, driving everybody nuts.

Oh, gosh. No, I look at drums. I'm on Craigslist looking at drums, you know.

Oh, really? I don't buy them, but I'm like, oh, that'd be a nice set to have. So I'm still a drummer at heart. But no, again, I just picked up the guitar.

You know, the joke is for the girls, but it was more to just get out there, to get out front, you know, to accompany myself. You know, it's hard to do on the kit. And yeah, just, you know, influenced by George Harrison, Scotty Moore, all the people we play in our show or all the music.

Yeah, the Ventures. All the music we play in our show are, you know. I was going to ask you who your influences were.

Just the artists that we, you know, the artists that we perform are the artists who influenced me. So that's pretty cool. Oh, Frank, I want to, what's that story about your friend with the Richie Valens? Oh.

It's one of my favorite stories that he tells. So we're doing a Beatle gig and Lou Diamond Phillips was there who, you know, famously played Richie Valens in the movie La Bamba. And the George Harrison at the band, in our band at the time, his famous story was that he was, it was between him and Lou Diamond Phillips to play Richie Valens.

And we didn't believe him because he was the kind of guy who, you know, also said he sailed on the Titanic. He was, he was, he was a BS-er, you know. And so we're doing this gig.

Lou Diamond Phillips is there and he's like, oh, wait till Lou sees me. And we're all, you know, poking each other going like, yeah, right. Sure enough, we're at the bar and Lou Diamond Phillips comes right up to him and says, Danny, it's so good to see you, man.

It should have been you. You could actually play and sing. You should have played Richie Valens.

And our jaws hit the floor, but it was like, wait till Lou sees me. We're like, yeah, right. But no, it, it, it happened.

Wow. It happens. Well, now you've got Cody, Cody Goose.

Saragusa. Saragusa, that's why he's called Goose. Yeah.

But now, is that same bass player you originally had? No, Cody replaced Dan Moore, our original bass player. All right. Now, is Cody a lefty? No, no, he's right.

Because he's upright. Oh, he plays upright bass. Yes.

And didn't, didn't Dan play a lefty bass? He played righty, but he played, he played the Dan Electro Longhorn. So it was kind of symmetrical. It sort of looked like.

I was thinking that, yeah. Now, Cody, you said he played with. He was with the Buddy Holly Story.

The, not the most recent run of it, but the. Here in Chicago? Here in Chicago. But the, the original run.

And he was with the Million Dollar Quartet on and off for, for a long time. He's a great upright bass player. And, you know.

Just such a nice guy. Such a good, such a good dude. And, and, and really into rockabilly.

He lives it. He lives it. He knows it.

You know, we can suggest a song and, you know, he doesn't even have to run it. He, he knows it. And he works part time at a pie shop.

And every now and then he brings pie. So that's key. You gotta love that guy.

We do love that about him. So you said that you try to keep busy, you know, every weekend, getting gigs every weekend. Is it just local or do you travel around the country or? We're around the Midwest.

I'd say, you know. We're huge in Iowa. They love us in Iowa.

Now about 75% of our shows are Chicagoland. But then, you know, we'll, we'll venture out to Wisconsin, Minnesota. We did play the Surf Ballroom.

And that was just, yeah, for their winter dance party. That was amazing. That was where Buddy Holly, right? Yeah.

That was the last gig for Buddy and the Hip Hopper. Yeah. Yeah.

So you didn't fly then, right? No, we drove. We did go visit the, the crash site and paid our due respect. Oh, really? Yeah.

That was nuts. You, you, you walk out about a mile and a half through, you know, mud. And, and there's a little memorial there, but it's, it's, it's very somber.

It's, it's, you know, I, I. I imagine, yeah. Recommend going if, if you're ever in the area. And of course the Surf Ballroom, they, they have restored it.

Actually, I don't think it ever really changed. I don't know if they had to do too much restoration, but it's a time capsule. It's as it was back then.

So there, there's definitely a vibe and a feeling playing that stage. Yeah. I imagine, I imagine it's a pretty, pretty, pretty exciting too.

Yeah. It was huge. Yeah.

Yeah. While I was on stage, I just, tears were in my eyes and there were pictures of Buddy Holly and Ritchie Valens, the big opera, and just everybody out there dressed retro, you know, for the dance party. It was emotional.

Where's that at in Iowa? It's Clear Lake, Iowa. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Um, Ritchie Valens' sister Connie was there and, and, you know, sought out Rosie and was very complimentary of you. And, you know, you're, you, I think you were the only person who performed La Bamba and actually got the words right. So, but besides that, she, she was very big, very big fan of Rosie.

So that was a nice endorsement from the Valens family that they gave us a thumbs up. Do you speak Spanish? Is that why? So don't be careful. No, I don't.

You do, you have a degree. In philosophy. You have a minor in Spanish.

Yeah. You know, you have to use it or you lose it. And I lost it.

So when did you play it? Was it this past winter that you played the, uh. Two. That was two winters ago.

Two winters ago. That's the only time you've ever played there. That's the only time we've ever played there.

And you know where else, on that tour, we went up to Minneapolis. What was that place that, um. We played Lee's Liquor Lounge.

Have you guys heard of Lee's Liquor Lounge? No. It's a very famous, what would you compare it to, the Green Mill in a way? Possibly, yeah. It's maybe not quite as swanky, but it's, that, that was cool.

For that kind of music, for that kind of, you know. For roots music. Yeah, that was, that was a treat.

Lee's, Lee's Liquor Lounge. If you're ever in Minnesota, uh, Minneapolis, it is, it is the place. Really? Great music every night.

Yeah, great feel. It was just cool, cool vibe. Um, I, I, I'm going to Minnesota in, uh, in September.

Okay. So I may have to check that out. Definitely check out Lee's.

Yeah. I'll let them know you're heading up that way. Okay.

So I'm sure you've got, uh, quite a few gigs booked currently. Except that of course, nobody's playing anywhere right now. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. It is heartbreaking.

Yeah. We have, you know, and I can't say they're going to all stay, but right now we're at about a hundred shows between now and the end of the year. Okay.

Wow. We've, I think we've had 12 cancellations. Well, you guys are doing this full time, right? Yes.

Yeah. Yes. Every, uh, now you mentioned that, that, uh, uh, Goose works at a, uh, a pie shop, right? Is everybody in a band? Otherwise full-time musician? Yeah.

Drummer full-time. Derek is? Derek is. Is Derek playing with anybody else or no? He's with, um, Billy Croft and the Five Alarm.

Okay. Which is a country band. He plays with them when he can.

Oh, okay. Yeah. We keep them pretty busy though.

That's true. Yeah. Yeah.

I would say if you've got a hundred shows booked, uh, between now and the end of the year, obviously with this, uh, craziness that's going on now that, uh, you've got some, some dates that are canceled. Yeah. But, uh, what have you got coming up? That's, uh, uh, in April that isn't being canceled.

Maybe. Okay. Well, let me look.

I know we have some, uh. I know more about our canceled shows than I do about our, right. I see you play club Arcada.

We do. We do. Now it's at the Arcada theater.

Correct. Yes. Third floor.

Oh, it's upstairs, right? Okay. It's like a speakeasy vibe. The twenties.

Hidden door behind the bookshelf. Right, right. Code to get in.

It is really cool. It's decorated. Just so great.

The ambience. The ambience is great. The service is great.

The food's very good too. Yeah. Now it's open to the public, obviously, right? Yes.

I see. Yeah. I, I, I've never been up there.

I've been at the Arcada several times, but I've never been up there. Oh, it's worth going up just, just to, you know, have a drink or just, I mean, you can get lost in that place. Just looking at, at, uh.

Yeah, Ron Onesti did a wonderful, wonderful job with that place. Yeah. Well, I was, I was supposed to play Ron Onesti's Club 210, uh, in April.

Oh, okay. And it's pending. Well, no, it's, it's, it's postponed.

Postponed. Right. Unless it cancels.

Sure. Sure. I like postponed.

Yes. Yes. 210 is great as well.

Yes. You have you played there? Yes. Yeah.

Nice, nice vibe. Yeah. As well.

Nice dance floor. Great stage. Yeah.

Yeah. That's a good time. I take it you do the casino tours.

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. We do.

We do appreciate the casino. We love the casinos. Yeah.

You do especially. Oh, hush now. Where's Rosie? Oh, there's the slot machine.

We're back on. Maybe you're right. So you'd be doing a lot of festivals this summer too? A lot of outdoor stuff.

Yeah. Tons of summer concert in the park type shows and a lot of fest. But right now, unfortunately, they're on hold as far as booking into the summer because nobody really knows what's happening.

Our phone hasn't rang in a week. Yeah. You know, no new bookings.

And I've reached out to some other bands and other band leaders and they're in the same boat. Right. Everything's in limbo right now.

So. Right. Yeah.

I know it's a shame, but I'm waiting for the government to give relief to the working musician. But I don't think that's going to happen. Keep waiting.

No, it's just, it's such a scary time right now. And every day it's just getting more scary. Oh yeah.

Every time you sign on, check out the news, it's like, oh no, now what? So Frank, you have any good stories back from the Beatle days? Oh gosh. Too many. I could, I could write a book.

Most of them I can't really repeat, but, you know, we, we just, we did a lot of cool things. You know, he's been everywhere. Yeah.

Yes. It's in, in getting to play some of the places the Beatles played. That was surreal.

Like the cavern club. Oh, you did. I did play the cavern.

I got to record at Abbey Road Studio too. Oh, very cool. Which was like, you know, going to church, you, you walk in that room and it's like, yeah, you hear a choir of angels.

And it, that was surreal, you know, because that room hasn't changed and they have the, the equipment, you know, like, you know, they were wheeling out the microphones and, you know, there's the piano where, you know, they played the ending chord on a day in the life. And it's all still there and, you know, accessible to you if you record in that room. So that was a highlight.

That definitely was a highlight. You know, Carnegie Hall was very cool. Played the Budokan.

That was very cool. Oh. Yeah.

So just places. So you've been around the world. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Was that with Fab Four? That was with the Fab Four mostly.

A couple of things with American English, but the Fab Four. And I was with a band. First Beatle band I was in was a local Beatle band called British Export.

That's where I got my start, which I think they were British Import. And then somebody left and had to change it to British Export. But that's how I got, you know, the band needed a John Lennon.

I knew somebody in the band, a buddy of mine was playing Paul and said, Hey, you know, you know, you kind of resemble, try out for this. And, you know, I was going to school. I was working at a jewel store.

Yes. You know, I wasn't. I wasn't anticipating doing this.

You know, at least at that level. And, you know, next thing I know, I'm going around the world and, you know, playing music for people and, you know, non-English speaking countries, but they all know. Hey, Jude.

Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah. So should they know? I want to hold your hand.

All of them. They do. Yeah, they do.

And it was lovely. And, you know, I wouldn't trade it for the world. And, you know, glad to have done it.

And, you know, glad to have taken some of that knowledge and put it into Rosie and the Rivets. You know how to. Right.

You know, put on a show, how to. I'm very Christine will tell you. I'm very anal about our equipment and the sound.

And, you know, that that's a carryover from from the Beatle thing. You know, it's like if you want to sound like John Lennon, you need this guitar plus the same plus, you know, back to whatever you see, 30 and, you know, this and that, whatnot. You know, I'm I'm I'm a little crazy about that, Rosie.

Yeah, you are. So it's OK. Now, Rosie, you taught yourself to play guitar.

Did you take lessons or. Taught myself. But, you know, I play a G, a C and a D, you know, I think most of those rockabilly songs, maybe throw in an E minor, get crazy.

Look at me. But he works. That's good, though.

I mean, I mean, did they because a lot of people give up at it really quick. Yeah. Well, you know, the blisters, you know, that's the first.

Yeah, yeah. Well, it's it's amazing. You know, you're self-taught, you're self-taught vocalist.

Again, you know, we went out on a couple of dates and then, you know, we started talking like, oh, you play guitar, too. So we decided to jam. And, you know, she played guitar great and sang great.

When she sang, I think you sang Superstar by by the Carpenters, by Karen Carpenter. And my jaw hit the the ground. I'm like, you're not in you're not a professional singer.

No, I work for the airlines. It was kind of blew my mind. But now, Frank, you sing with the other guys singing in the band or no? Backgrounds.

Yes. Everybody's. Yeah.

Drummer keeps threatening that he wants to sing. Yeah, Derek, Derek keeps threatening, like, oh, I could throw in a harmony, like. Yeah.

Hey, give the guy a chance. You know, the drummer. So he's he's wonderful.

We love drummers. I'm supposed to say, you know, but but if they can't, I suppose you got to let them. Exactly.

Exactly. But so. So besides besides those other days, we don't know what's going to happen here.

Right now. No, we don't. Fingers crossed.

One day at a time, you know. Yeah. Yeah.

But then we get to do fun stuff like this. So we do appreciate it. That's nice.

Yeah. Yeah. I think, you know, the house is going to get very clean.

I think that, you know, all that all those things that we have not had time to do because we're working suddenly. You can not bring cleaning. You can handle Mount Closemore in the corner there.

Thanks. Oh, nice. My laundry pile is more apparently.

I like that. That's good. I use that in my kids.

Yeah. So how do we find you social media wise? We have an Instagram, which is Instagram slash Rosie in the Rivets. And we have a Facebook page.

If you haven't liked it, please do. And we have a website, which is Rosie in the Rivets dot com. Right.

Has links to our CD, which is for sale. We do have a CD for sale. Let's talk about the CD.

Yes. We recorded a custom recorders in Crete, Illinois. I don't know if you guys are familiar with those guys.

It's the brothers from Iron Horse. They were well, they still are. They're great rock rockabilly country band.

They had some success on was it America's Got Talent? Yeah, they were finalists. And basically what they did is the funds that they got from doing that. They sunk into a studio in Crete and they bought Crete, Illinois.

They bought all sourced, all vintage analog equipment. Oh, really? Oh, everything. It's so cool.

It's so cool. Really check it out because your mind will be blown. Talk about stepping back in time.

You know, everything. I mean, they have a they have a plate reverb. They had to build a closet to put the nice big giant.

They have everything. Tape machines and just so anyway, they're friends of ours. We went there and recorded a record there and did it the old fashioned way.

You know, no overdubs, no computers, no pitch correction. Just the whole band playing? Just the whole band, you know, with maybe an overdub for the vocal. We did one Christmas song on there and I was singing it.

I'm like, I just I just don't have the Christmas feel. So one of the brothers went, took out a Christmas tree, wrapped lights around it. That was wonderful.

Yeah, that was wonderful. It's all you need. Yeah, yeah.

Now I see it says volume two, though, is it? Is there a volume one? Volume one, which is out of print. But we we are going to we intend to order another batch of those. I see.

Yeah. And we did the same thing. We recorded both at custom with Aaron and Carl.

Right. So it seems it seems that in the five years you've been together, you've been pretty busy doing doing doing that and playing quite a bit. Yeah.

Well, we have to. You know, it's it's it's it's our job. It's there's there's no great mystery to it.

Everybody says, you know, well, wow, you guys are so busy. But it's really just to, you know, pay the bills and live a decent life. We're so lucky.

But we are lucky. We are lucky. Yeah.

So I'm sure you do a plethora of different songs, Rosie. What are some of your favorites that you like to do? I like to sing the boys songs. And some people will come up to me and say, you know, you should change Runaround Sue to, you know, Runaround Lou.

I'm like, you know, I'm going to sing the song as it was intended. So I like to rock out to the boys song. I like Jailhouse Rock.

You know, it's one of my favorites to sing. But Tutti Frutti and Good Golly Miss Molly, I like to just scream those out. It's a lot of fun.

And then I'll do Dream Lover and kind of take it down a little bit. My mom's like, OK, good. There's one that you don't growl on.

And Frank, how about you? Well, it's funny you said you like singing the boy songs because I like when you sing the girl songs. I like when Rosie does like the Shangri-Las and Walking in the Sand and Please, Mr. Postman, the Marvelettes. I love that because, you know, I obviously haven't been able to really do that before, you know, being in a band with all guys.

So it's nice to hear, you know, those great late 50s, early 60s. Yeah, you hear all those voices. Yeah.

Yeah. And just really doing it justice with a lot of soul. Got a lot of soul.

Thank you. Welcome. Because a guy's voice just doesn't cut it in those songs.

Well, you know, a lot of those songs were covered by the Beatles, though. Right. You know, Please, Mr. Postman.

But it's nice to hear it how it was intended, I guess. Well, so many people will say, can you sing Patsy Cline? Can you do a Patsy Cline song? So I said, absolutely, we will. And then Frank sings Fault Pieces and it freaks people out.

So we do. Yeah, we'll do that, too. We'll do that, too.

Just a change. Are any of those songs on the- Walking in the Sand. Walking in the Sand is on the CD.

And then I think a lot of just rockabilly. Oh, we did New Orleans by Gary U.S. Bonds. Like, my favorite song on that CD.

There's a lot of good stuff. Rockin' Robin and- And the guys do tequila. We did do tequila.

Well, that's after this. Oh, you mean the song? I was going to say- I got a bottle right here. Yeah, I was going to say, we recorded the song, too.

So yeah, a lot of fun. That's great. Well, thanks, guys, for coming in and coming out on this crazy day here.

It's kind of- Besides the coronavirus going on, I mean, just the weather is kind of icky outside. Yeah, somewhere between snow and rain. Yeah, it is.

Yeah. But we appreciate it and appreciate having you guys out here. We appreciate you guys.

Thank you so much for having us. Thank you. And come visit the museum or become charter members if you can.

Absolutely. It's only $20 or $25, I believe, so- Oh, that's wonderful. Absolutely.

This place is great. Yeah. Yeah, it's going to be nice once it's done.

Can't wait. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Are you done yet? You still working on that? Are you still here? Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. Hold on.

I'll stop. Must be one heck of a project you're working on. It is.

It is. I'm- Wait till I'm done. Is it stainless steel? It's stainless.

It's stainless. That's why it's so shiny. It's going to be museum worthy.

Oh, okay. Good. Well, it's good because we're at a museum.

That's true. We are. But that was Frank and Christine, a.k.a. Rosie of Rosie and the Rivets.

And it was nice to hear from them and talk with them and find out what they're up to. They've been together about five years, and it's been an exciting ride for them. They've been out in Iowa.

They do a lot of the casinos. You're going to have to edit this. Been where? Where they've been? The casinos.

They do a lot of casinos, a lot of festivals. You know, unfortunately, right now, nobody's playing, but- Up in Winscanson. Winscanson, yeah.

Over by there. Yeah. Don't you know.

So anyway, how's your project coming along there? You going to be good for the- make it here at the museum here? Make it something here? You know, since all the restaurants and bars are closed and there's nothing to do, I'm just going to keep riveting. Oh, okay. That's very riveting.

It is very riveting. Okay. Well, thanks to Frank and Christine, aka Rosie, from Rosie and the Rivets for joining us.

And what else? Be sure and listen. Be sure and share our podcast with all your friends. And thanks to the Illinois Rock and Roll Museum on Route 66 in beautiful downtown Julia, Illinois, for providing us our wonderful studio space here.

And don't forget to check them out at roadtorock.org and sign up for a charter membership. And then listen to the roadtorockradio.net. That's the internet radio station of the museum, where they feature nothing but Illinois music. Lots of it.

Lots of it. And then there's something else they do every Monday, isn't there? There is. There's our podcast every Monday at 6 p.m. At 6 p.m. every Monday.

That's great. They feature one of our podcasts. So be sure and check it out.

And thanks again for listening. And we'll talk to you soon. Talk to you soon.