Coming to you from the studios at the Illinois Rock and Roll Museum on Route 66. It's the Rock and Roll Chicago Podcast. Hey everybody, it's Ray the Roadie.

And this here is Hollywood Mike. Greetings. Greetings to you, sir, and salutations.

Running a little late today? Yeah, a little bit. I was coming from Oswego today. Oswego, that's where the great ones are.

No, that's not it, no. No, I like to go out to Oswego because I get to wear my boots and my hat and go out to farm fields and stuff like that, yeah. What do you do out in the farm field? I'm watching guys take soil samples.

Oh, that sounds like a lot of fun. Yeah, then I have to drive over here in the traffic. What do you do with these soil samples? I do nothing with them.

I just show them how to use the equipment to extract it. Oh, who the heck was that? I don't know. Who was that? I have no idea.

I don't know. It sounded like a nuclear reaction. I know.

And you know what happens then? Yeah, there's the aftermath. The aftermath, yeah, exactly. That's who's here.

It's the aftermath. All right. How's everybody doing? Studio tonight.

Excellent. Excellent. Well, why don't we get around the table here and just kind of do the kindergarten thing and introduce yourselves and tell everybody what you do in the band.

Well, my name is Norm Daisy. I'm from La Porte, Indiana, and I play the bass guitar. And I'm an OG too.

Have you been here before? Never. Never. It was your doppler.

I have a lot of doppelgangers. Doppelganger? Doppelganger, yeah. Doppelfloppelangers, okay.

There's something like that. All right. All right.

I'm Maggie Gravetti. I'm the drummer, singer, and I'm from Lowell, Indiana. All right.

Shane Corsell from La Porte, Indiana, guitar player, singer. Pamela Rocha. I'm from Crown Point, Indiana.

I play keyboard and also help with the vocals. All right. And forget guitars.

Yeah, I forgot the guitar today, so we'll have to sing a cappella. Why would you ask the keyboard player to bring the guitar? She's blaming it on me, but I did ask her. She has a nicer guitar than I do.

And it sounded good. So I said, do we bring her a guitar? She goes, sure. That's my excuse.

Gotcha. And you didn't bring the guitar. And Shane and I both have probably eight guitars between us, and she didn't bring her one.

Oh, so it's her fault. Yeah. Okay.

There you go. I bring everything. The set list, cough drops, you know.

Yeah. Our separate carry. Yeah.

So I looked you guys up online, and I was trying to find you guys. And I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you guys are not Aftermath, the thrash metal band from Chicago. Not even close.

You guys get that a lot, don't you? Actually, about six months ago, I got a call from an Aftermath band from Canada who was signed with Sony. Right. And they were threatened to... We found an Aftermath logo online.

It looked pretty cool, so we put it on our website. On our Facebook. And they got their hands on it.

They saw it. They're like, that's our logo. You got to get rid of that or we're going to sue you.

So the next gig, it was off the drum head. Yeah. Right.

You got the system. They were cool about it and everything. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Because we didn't want to pay for someone to make us.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, if you really wanted to, you could have probably raised the stink because I looked up Aftermath, right? I always do that, right? About 12 different bands came up.

The first one that came up was this thrash metal band from Chicago. And I was like, yeah, this is going to be great, right? And I listened to a lot of their music. Sorry to disappoint.

I listened to a lot of their music. I mean, it was thrash metal, but it was like modern thrash, where it was actually really melodic, danceable, if you can even say that. And then there's like 12 other bands that are also called Aftermath.

So how come you're the ones getting the cease and desist? Because it seems to me like there should be other ones that are fighting for that name. Because they didn't use their logo. They have their own logo.

Yeah, could be. But you know what it is? They're afraid of you guys because you're probably better than they are. I think we are.

That's what it is. At least the one that wanted to sue us, I think we're better than them. Could be.

Yeah. It's always the little guys that scream the loudest. So what kind of stuff do you guys play? You want to do it? Oh, god.

Primarily classic rock, but we mix in a variety of stuff. You know, people like to dance and hear disco and other things. Right, right.

We do everything. So what inspired you to join a classic rock band? I was the last, the late comer. I've been with them two years.

And I was raised on rock. My dad always had me in the garage with him and had rock and roll on. So that's just my roots.

Actually, my roots are classical, piano, but I listen to everything. Yeah, I mean, that's the reason why I asked her that. Because I mean, I'm looking at her and she looks like, oh, she's classically trained.

Right. And I'm thinking Debbie Boone, you know, stuff like that. That's classical to you? Yeah, yeah.

But no, I mean, but, you know, valid question. No. So were you always a keyboardist, piano player? Yeah.

I started at the age of 10 and was playing by ear before that. Finally started lessons and took private lessons for a really long time. And just, you know, developed on my own after that to just every genre that I could.

Right, right. Then obviously decided, OK, guitar. And so if I'm going to play guitar, I'm going to get a kick ass acoustic and make sure that it's better than the other peoples in my band.

That's right. Everybody else wants to play it. I do play guitar, just not typically in that band, but, you know, for fun at home.

Yeah, yeah. Typical story. Put yourself in the position, because I know you've done this before, but I know you've worked sound and stuff like that before.

Put yourself in the position where you go to a gig, right? And you go to the guitar player and say, you're ready? Where's your guitar? I asked her to bring it for me. You mean you didn't bring your guitar to the gig? How many times is that going to happen? We're here for an hour. We're here for an hour, right? Yeah.

Give it to him for an hour. Let him have it for an hour. So, so, so tell us about it there, Mr. Invisible.

Actually, he's an air guitarist. Yeah, he's an air guitarist tonight. Yeah.

Tell us about yourself. I got nothing, man. He doesn't.

He's got nothing. Literally. We thought we had a good plan.

Just didn't work out this time, you know? It happens. I don't know what to say. Yeah, yeah.

So how long have you been in this band? I started this band back in 2012. Okay. Me and Norm and we've gone through a couple of different players, drummers and singers.

We actually have another singer in the band that's out right now due to some local court issues. He's having surgery next month. Oh, wow.

But we've been doing it because these girls sing like birds. They're great. So we just kept doing our four-piece thing.

Okay. And hoping he gets better. And because with him, it's a different dynamic.

We do a lot more heavier stuff. The stuff we're doing here is a lot of harmonies and kind of yacht rocky if you want to go there. You know, it's kind of this dance, but it's cool stuff.

Christopher Cross. But we'll cross over to Rush and Forerunner and stuff like that also. But it's cool music that a lot of people don't play.

Toto, a lot of Toto. Right, right. Things like that, you know? So it's working out really well.

Now I wish you really had a guitar with you, because if you're playing some Toto and stuff like that, you got to rip, man. Yeah, we're kind of a proggy. If you want to go that way, you know, we're a little proggy.

This girl here, Maggie, the drummer, she's got some chops. She played the band called Take a Bite. Every night I had off from the band I used to play, and I would go out and see the Bite band.

They were all because of her. She was just killer. Yeah, yeah.

I got to tell you, and please take this in the best possible way, right? Because I'm seeing a gimmick here. Because if I saw you guys walking down the street right now, there's no way I'm thinking, okay, this is a band that plays prog rock. It's not prog.

I shouldn't say prog, but Rush, I guess you can call Rush proggy, you know, a little bit. Phil Collins, Genesis. I thought he said frog.

Frog rock? Yeah, that's what I was thinking. My hearing's not that good. Well, that's dancefloor hopping, you know.

Oh, no, I think we have competition for dad jokes here tonight. You have absolutely no idea. So finally, we have all kinds of different genres, you know, on the show.

And we always talk about people who are doing like yacht rock, because yacht rock is a thing nowadays. It really is. And people don't even realize, well, what does that term mean? And then you start naming, you know, Christopher Cross, you know, Toto, Ace.

I absolutely love the band Ace and Ambrosia and bands like that. I love that stuff. And all of that stuff is coming back again, every single bit of it.

And every time I play something like that for somebody, they're like, oh, this is pretty cool. Where'd this band come from? Um, it's difficult to play. It is.

It's not easy music to play. No, it is not easy music to play. And trust me, because just recently I've been involved in a project where they said, well, we got to do something from Ace.

OK, great. Let's do something from Ace. And we literally started going down the list of songs going yet.

No, no. OK, this one only has four chords. Let's go with that one.

Yeah, that's pretty much the way it's going. Yeah. So that's so how's that being received? I'm assuming you're doing well with that.

Very well. You still got your people in the bars that want to hear Sweet Home Alabama and Mustang Sally. Right.

But the diehards are coming out every weekend to hear us. And we don't play it. No, we won't play it.

I mean, God bless the guys. There's plenty of bands out there that'll do it for us. We don't have to do it.

So we do a lot of the stuff that other bands don't want to cover, whether they can't or don't want to put the effort into it. Yeah, we work hard at practice. A lot of B-sides? A lot of B-sides.

Absolutely. Yeah, a lot of stuff that that's what that's one of our things. We want to play a show when people come with you and say, man, you guys, I've never heard a band do that song before.

That's what we go for, you know, something different. Right, right. Would you say it's more of a dance set than a listening kind of set? Or what would you say? We typically do like a concert set, our first set.

Then the second set, we'll get into some dance music and get people dancing, kind of wet their whistle and then go back to the stuff we like to play. Well, what would you say is your favorite out of all that? Man, there's a lot of good ones. I don't know.

I love the Toto. I love the Rush, the Genesis, that kind of stuff, you know, with the 7-8 timing and stuff like that. Right, right, right.

We get into that. We do a lot of Deep Purple, too. Some Deep Purple, I should say.

So we'll dive down into some of that. Yeah, I wouldn't, I don't know, man. The Yacht Rock is maybe a quarter of what we do.

Not even. No, I think. Or not even.

But it all depends on how you're defining Yacht Rock, because if you go and listen to the Yacht Rock station on Spotify or someplace like that. It's always on in my car. All of those, yeah, all those bands that you've just named are being classified as Yacht Rock nowadays.

And some of these things are like, you got to be kidding me. When I was in high school, there's no way they would have classified that as Yacht Rock. But yeah, it's Yacht Rock nowadays.

That's what they're calling it. I hear Rush, and I hear Toto, and I hear Deep Purple on the same station as I hear Pablo Cruz. You know, it's all in that same thing.

I thought Pablo Cruz was a great band. Oh, absolutely. One of my favorites.

I absolutely love Pablo Cruz. I thought they were good. I consider that Yacht Rock.

Yeah, yeah. I absolutely love that band. Yeah, like I said, it's all coming back.

And I was born in the early 70s. I was born in 1970. Whenever I hear any of that stuff, I'm back in the back seat of the 71 Chevy Chevelle and heading down the highway with the parents, you know? Yeah.

Yeah, interesting. It's kind of morphed into this because we used to play a lot of Def Leppard, ACDC, Boston. Journey, a lot of Journey, yeah.

Which, that's kind of Yacht Rocky too, really. But without Billy, we've had to go with the girls. They're not singing ACDC, right? They sing 80% of our music.

Right, right. We had Billy. He was like a parrot.

Whoever he sang, he sang it just like Steve Perry. He'd sound... Like ACDC. He'd sound just like Bon Scott.

Chris Stapleton. Anybody he sang, country or rock, he sounded just like it. Right.

We really missed him. I still miss him. But, you know, since he's down, these two girls stepped up and then it's like, we're doing different music.

We're doing maybe some ABBA and some Fleetwood. We added a Sade song, which Norm likes to call her Sadie, but... And Adelaide. Adelaide.

Well, maybe you guys can't answer this, but there's two schools of thought on that. There's, you know, there's people that they sound like the singers that they're covering because they purposely are trying to sound like the singer that they're covering. Or there's some people that sound like the singer they're covering simply because they changed the syllables and the use of the word.

No, no, honestly, on tape, he sounds like the singer. It's not just because he puts a twang into it or whatever, no, he actually literally sounds like it. I mean, how do you do that from the Doobie Brothers, dude? Oh, Michael McDonald.

Michael McDonald loves to do that. We'd crack up and practice. He sounds just like Michael McDonald.

Well, you just got to pretend you have like a mouthful of gummy bears. You don't know me, but I'm your bro. Yeah, he actually does a little better than that, but that was pretty good, dude.

I'll give it to you. Doing something like that. Yeah.

Yeah. OK, interesting. Yeah.

And I'd say Pam's wheelhouse would probably be McVie from Fleetwood. OK. Just like her.

And Maggie's, she hates this, but she sounds like Melissa Etheridge or Rod Stewart. She's got that real rasp in her voice, a lot of soul. That's kind of her deal.

Yeah. God, I wish we had a guitar now. Yeah, no kidding.

Yeah, but we were going to do Kyrie. Yeah, we were going to do Kyrie by Mr. Mister. Were you really? You were tonight when we were going to do Kyrie.

Well, you know what? That can totally be done acapella. It can. That can totally be done acapella.

And I bet you it would sound fantastic. And I think you should try. And if it doesn't, we'll just cut it out.

There you go. You guys have the edit button. I've heard that before.

That's the beauty of taping it, because we can edit it out if you guys are up for it. So as long as we're talking about Maggie. The drums, huh? So how old were you when you went to your parents and said, I want to play the drums, and they rolled your eyes at you? I never had that, which is why I think I'm as good as I am.

No, that's good. I'm not the best drummer in the world. Don't get me wrong.

But my dad was a music teacher, so. Oh, gotcha. Okay, all right.

That helps to ease the pain a little bit. For sure. Yeah, yeah.

What did your dad play? He was a sax player. He played for Mitzi Gaynor, Liberace. Amazing.

Wow. Yes, he did a lot of gigging. Okay, and where'd you grow up? Valparaiso, Indiana.

In Valparaiso, okay. Wow, that's interesting. You don't know about, I mean, you've got the working musician next door.

Somebody should write a book about that, about the working musician next door. I found out years after being in a band with somebody, I don't know why we never talked about it before, but I was in a band with somebody for years, like literally close to 10 years one time. And then I found out that his uncle was one of Frank Sinatra's band leaders.

It's crazy. How come you never talked about that before? You know, kind of thing. Oh, Frank.

Well, the Radisson, remember the Radisson? Was that Holiday Star Theater? Yeah, right. Oh, yeah, yeah. Once my dad started getting calls, you know, he got to play a lot of those shows, which was really cool.

The OJs and if they needed a saxophone, they'd call me. What's there now? It's not the, it's not the empty lot anymore. Did they level it? They leveled it.

Wow, I didn't even realize that. That shows you how long I've been out that direction. It was a sad day.

Been gone a while. Yeah. It did get a reprieve once.

They were going to shut it down, but then they kept it for just a little while and. Yeah, I think Sticks was the last show. Yeah.

Or no, not Sticks. It was, what's his name? Oak Ridge Boys, wasn't it? Yeah, Oak Ridge Boys were always there. Dennis DeYoung's band, I think I went and saw the last one.

Wow. When did that close down? It had to be 12, 15 years ago. It was that long ago? Yeah.

No, not that long. I want to say four or five. That's what I was going to say.

Four or five, yeah. Yeah, it's been a while. Well, now we have to figure it out.

Yeah, because I saw, I think it was this place. I saw ZZ Top there. With Foreigner.

They play there a lot. Yes, with Foreigner. Yeah, I thought that was you.

That's why you know him. And you're wondering how you knew me. Yeah, that was it.

Okay. That was the guy streaking across the stage. Yeah.

So how did you end up with this band? I'm assuming you've done things with other people over the years as well? Oh, for sure. Yeah. But I was kind of done.

Okay. I was 16 years in the same band. What band was that? Take a Bite.

Okay. Take a Bite. A couple of albums.

And it really worked hard. Yeah. And then, you know, it had its changes and it just kind of fizzled out.

Nobody really wanted to do it anymore. And I was kind of done. And then I just get this random call.

And I knew him from the band Naughty. I didn't know Norm. And I knew the keyboard player.

Yeah. I went and heard him. And I was like, this could be fun.

This could be really fun. This guy can rip. One of the best guitar players I've ever heard.

I'm listening to the music that you're playing that's obvious to me. Because I'm a guitar player. And I'm like, yeah, no.

I don't have the time or the patience to try and learn anything by Steve Lukather. Yeah. He's tough.

Yeah. And then I love the singer too. And I always sang in Take a Bite.

I did 85% of the songs. That's when Melissa Etheridge was popular. And I do sound like her.

So we would do all Melissa shows. It was kind of a specialty thing for a while. And then I didn't want to sing anymore.

I was just throwing in some harmonies here and there. Yeah. And now I'm back at it.

Well, there you go. There you go. Now, what were your influences growing up? I didn't have anyone particular.

I was a Steely Dan freak. Yeah. And a Toto freak.

All that stuff. I like the hard stuff. So there's a common thread there.

Okay. Yeah. There's a common thread for sure.

Excuse me. I have a Bolton coming through. December 17, 2017.

The final show was the Oak Ridge Boys. The only group to perform there every year since it was open. That's great.

Well, I know. It was seven years. I was totally about to do that myself.

Back to you, Mike. Yeah. Now I lost my train of thought.

Not even know where I was going with that. Well, should we just go to weather now? Yeah, we can go to weather now. Yeah.

No, what was I saying? I was in the process. I was completing a thought. You were talking about her drumming and who her influences were.

Oh, you know what? Yeah. You mean drum influence? Steely Dan, Jeff Picarro. Yeah.

Music or drummers. Either or. Yeah.

Yeah. Steely Dan. I know what I was going to say.

Steely Dan is the band that, for me anyway, when I first heard them, didn't want anything to do with them. And it was like within the last 10 years that I decided, yeah, I kind of like the tone of that guitar. And it was the guitar tone.

It was the guitar tone that attracted me to the band. It wasn't the singing. It wasn't the harmonies.

It wasn't the songwriting. It was the tone of the guitars. And I know they've had several different guitar players, but they all seem to kind of sound the same in a way.

There's like a common thread with all of them. And yeah, I think my favorite was Skunk Baxter. And different singers too.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, they do. Yeah.

And they didn't tour for the first 10 years of their existence. Yeah, they hardly ever toured. That's the best part about them.

Yeah. They sold albums. That's what it was.

I don't like lazy musicians. Okay. No, that's interesting.

So the Doppelganger. Your turn. I have a feeling this is going to be good.

We're going to go all the way. This is going to be good. We're going to go all the way back, right? Well, I am the OG, so.

Yeah, yeah. Always a bass player or did you start off as a guitar player? I played guitar when I was a kid and went to bass when the church group couldn't find a bass player. So I sucked it up and became a bass player.

Isn't that the way it always goes? It's either, well, we couldn't find a bass player, so I turned to bass. Or we got three guitar players here. You're the worst one, so here's the bass.

There's only four strings. How long have you been playing? Since I was six. Wow.

What? I'm old. Yeah? Yeah. You're seasoned.

Very. Yeah. Have you played in the most band, done the most stuff out of everybody in the group? I don't think so.

Played in many bands in many years. So take me back to high school for you. What was the music you guys were listening to in high school? High school, I was still in, I probably just got out of gospel music and hit the bar scene.

Gospel music. Hard, yes. Gospel music and then hit the bar scene.

Yes, and probably in a two-month period. So you were, I mean, you technically, you were truly raised on gospel music, and that was your introduction to the music theme. Excellent, excellent.

So where do you go from there? I go to a 16-year-old kid playing in the bars three nights a week for nine months straight, same bar. Right, right, wow. Saw everything there is to see.

Yeah, I bet. And by the time I was 17 years old. What bar was that? It was called the Golden Lion.

The Golden what? Golden Lion. Golden Lion, okay. In the Port of Indiana.

All right, all right, all right, wow. It's on Maine, get it? No, no, hey, actually, actually, it was Kitty Corner from the police state, the police department downtown, and every night the law was there. I don't believe you said it was on Maine.

It just came to me. I like this. Yeah, so that, yeah, the Maine.

So when you started getting into, I guess, not gospel, or should we call it secular music, was it stuff that kind of was influenced by gospel? No, because when we left that, it became, and it was, I finally got my introduction to the Beatles in the 60s and stuff. In the 70s is when I was like, I was behind everything. Okay, all right.

You know, so a lot of Elvis back in the day. Well, that's gospel influenced. For sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, excellent. Well, I think we're going to try and experiment. I think so.

I think we should try and experiment. So let's take a break. Let's take a break.

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Yeah, we just wanted to remind you about the fundraiser for the Illinois Rock and Roll Museum on Route 66, which is taking place on October 27th at the Renaissance Center in downtown Juliette. You'll be able to get tickets at Cadillac Groove shows. If you see Mike or myself somewhere, we'll have tickets.

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Me too. Shane's got perfect pitch, so he knows. The wind blows hard against this mountainside, across the sea into my soul.

It reaches into where I cannot hide, setting my feet upon the road. Kyrie eleison, down the road that I must travel. Kyrie eleison, through the darkness of the night.

Kyrie eleison, where I'm going, will you follow? Kyrie eleison, on the highway in the night. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Kyrie eleison, down the road that I must travel.

Kyrie eleison, through the darkness of the night. Kyrie eleison, where I'm going, will you follow? Kyrie eleison, on the highway in the night. They brought their fans with them.

See, I told you that was going to be awesome. That was good. The harmonies are fantastic.

Yeah. Great. We did that.

I can't remember if we talked about it live or not, but they didn't bring an acoustic guitar with them, so we punished them. We said, you know what? You're going to do this acapella. That's right.

And they did an acapella, and they nailed it. People must pay for their mistakes. Yeah, that's right.

On the Rock and Roll Chicago podcast. You know, you guys work on the harmonies because when I go out and see a band, harmonies make it. You can have an average band with great harmonies, and everything's great.

You can have a great band with horrible harmonies, and it's just like, it just doesn't work. I totally agree. Yeah.

Awesome. That was fantastic. Wow.

That was. So who's your music director? Shane. All right.

So he gets on my butt a lot. He lifts a great slide. I pick on Norm more than anybody else.

Yeah. Well, he's got the broad shoulders, right? Yes. Yeah, you can't pick on the ladies.

Hey, he's my best friend. We've hung out for the last 35 years playing music together, so we're like brothers, you know, so. And they're scared of us.

Yeah. Well, yeah. That's the real story.

Say that again. Nope. Plus, Maggie cooks very well for us, and I want to keep her happy.

Well, there you go. Like last night, we got together and had a little practice, and we had. With the guitar.

Yeah, with the guitar. So that's where it is. So let's have this conversation right now, because I want to make sure that people can figure out how to find you guys.

You know, how do people find out where you're playing and get all the information? I'm the organized person. Except for when you're supposed to bring. Except for this one moment of my life.

I know. I have spreadsheets for everything, and I didn't make one for today, and that's why. Yeah, that's why that is.

So you're the web host, or you're the web manager? Yeah. She's the bulldog. She's the one who goes out there and hits the streets and gets us gigs.

Okay. So what's your website? We're on Facebook. We also have an EPK.

So Facebook.com slash The Aftermath Music is our Facebook page. The Aftermath.BandZoogle.com is our EPK. And that's what we have currently.

We have some videos on YouTube. If you type in The Aftermath. Indiana.

Indiana, you would find some too. Right, right. You guys doing all your own bookings and everything? Yeah, it's been primarily me.

Shane will do some too. Okay. Yeah.

And what kind of places are you playing? All over. Bars, festivals. Casinos.

Pretty much anything. We'd like to play more in Chicago land. True.

Yeah. We're still in Indiana, but we'd like to be out here more. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Yeah. We need to get a hold of DeMarco. I'm sure you guys know him.

Everybody knows him. Everybody knows Joey DeMarco. We need to get a hold of him and see if he can help us.

Are you out there? You listening? Yeah. I don't know. You know, if Joey DeMarco listens to this program, that would be a thing.

Let me tell you. That would be a thing. So Joey, we're looking for sponsors.

Yes, we sure are. It might not be a bad idea for him to listen. He might find a good diamond in the rough and get him a band of the sponsor, you know? Yeah, for sure.

For sure. So where are you? Let's try that again. Try that again.

Where are you guys playing, say, like? After August 13th. Yeah, right. It's 13th? Well, today's August 13th, so.

Yeah. Oh, right. That was the 12th.

Yeah. August 13th. Well, the three of us have a trio, which we do a lot of yacht rocking, and we call it Three's Company.

Oh, another cease and desist coming now. So the three of us will be playing at a country club in, where is that? Michigan City. Michigan City area, yeah.

But aftermath, let's get after it. Yeah. After the 13th.

The Lake of Four Seasons Clubhouse. Oh, yeah. But you got to know somebody to get in there.

It's a community, and you have to tell, it's a long story. We'll blow that one off. Mill Pond.

Mill Pond Fest in Union Mills, Indiana. They'll have fireworks, but good food, a lot of food vendors, games, things like that. We'll be the night, oh no, 5 to 8 that night, right? That's the 24th.

But our schedule is on our Facebook. Right. You got an events thing on there.

Yeah, we have an events thing on there. She's always posting events like months before. You'll find out where we're playing.

You got a lot of same people, like you got a following going out there to see you guys? Yeah, we're all in there. That's good. Yeah, yeah.

Any stalkers? Oh, yeah. What? You always have stalkers, right? You do too. Hey, you know you've made it when you have three.

I'm still at two. Then where's all my money? Boy, that's great. That's great.

So what has to happen for this coming year for you guys in order to say, hey, we had a successful year as a band? What are you looking to do? We did it. We filled the calendar. Yeah.

Just playing weekly together and keeping the music tight and having time to rehearse, add music that we love playing that's hard that no one else is playing because it's challenging. That's a success for us. Yeah, a couple of new shows.

I like when we had new shows like a different festival here or, you know, the Bulldog or whatever. There's a couple we're playing here. Plus, went out by Hammond or whatever, Whiting.

You know, just to me, a new festival is something different. So we ain't playing the same clubs. You ain't playing the same rotation all the time.

Right. Yeah, that's always a good thing. Our goal as a band is to kind of make people's mouth drop a little bit when we play because we're in a local band.

You're not going to see a lot of really, really good local bands play. So we play, we see them watching us and they're like talking and, you know, that's what that's more rewarding than anything. No, it's it's the best feeling in the world because we're playing songs that other bands don't do.

That's yeah, so it kind of feels like our own because no other bands do it, even though it's not. But has anybody in the group dabbled in any original music? A little bit. Everybody.

Any aspirations as a band or not just going to kind of keep it? No, we're all old. Well, Pam's a young one, but we're all we just want to play for have fun and make people happy. That's our goal.

Yeah, yeah. So what's what are you guys working on? Like right now, what are you going to add to the set list? Eventually, our next practice consists of a Steely Dan pegged by Steely Dan. Nice.

Wow. Lonesome Losers, Lonesome Loser by Little River Band. I love it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's another band that I discovered later in life. I absolutely love them.

Yeah, great vocalist. Yeah. What's the Dockin song you want to do? Oh, yeah.

Fooling Yourself by Styx and My Dreams by Dockin. Okay, now that's now that's the one that's kind of like. Yeah, that's the one we used to play a lot of.

That was a 50% of our material with Billy was in the band. Right. A lot of harder rock, you know, Skid Row, Def Leppard.

Right, right, right. Stuff like that. We've kind of morphed into this because none of us really sing that type of music.

So but we're having a ball with it, you know. So Billy is his name you're saying? Bill Jones. Bill Jones.

So he's more of a he's more of almost like a metal guy if he can sing all that stuff, huh? But he can sing country. I played a country band with him called Hoosier Highway for about three years. He can sing.

He can know country too. Right, right, right. It's crazy when you hear him sing.

Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, vocals, you know, vocals are vocals. The mechanics and everything are all the same.

Yeah. You know, you know, I've never heard of any. I've never heard of anybody.

It's just the metal singer, you know. Well, unless you're talking about the guys, you know, from ACDC. A real metal band.

That's all they do. Yeah, yeah. So, okay.

Excellent. We were dipping into pretty heavy stuff. Some Disturbed and Raging Against the Machine and Limp Bizkit and stuff like that.

Right, right. Now we're toning it back down to this harmony thing, you know. Yeah.

Our strengths, I think. I think that's, I think that's great what you guys are doing, you know, with the harmonies and everything. I mean, the last, the last thing we need around here in this area is another, like, classic rock band doing the same, like we said earlier.

You know, I don't, I don't need to hear Don't Stop Believin' again. I don't. And you mentioned Chris Dabathin.

Yeah. I don't, I don't need to hear Tennessee Whiskey. Oh, here we go again.

That's his favorite song. Gosh, you know. And it's not my favorite song.

I hate that song. I go sit off on stage left while they do it. That's right, you know.

I think that's what people like too, that they know when they come out and see us, they're not going to hear that stuff. I mean, it's a great song. Like the song, because we don't need somebody else doing it.

Right. We don't need to. We do Firewoman by The Cult.

We do some heavier stuff. That's good. Yeah.

No One Knows. No One Knows by Queens of the Stone Age. Oh, nice.

That's a great song. It is a great song. That's a great song.

I was in the band. We've done that one before too. We try to throw people curveballs here and there.

I'm like, oh, they're doing that song? Oh, jeez, you know. Shoot them. You know, gosh, what is wrong with him? Is he? I don't know.

I can dress him up. What about a glockenspiel? You guys going to add a glockenspiel to the band anytime soon? He's on a quest to find a glockenspiel. We did find a band that said they got a glockenspiel.

Yeah, but I think they were simulating it though on a keyboard or something. Probably. Yeah.

All right. Trying to just appease me. Well, I'll tell you why.

I think we're going to let these guys go and find the glockenspiel. So the next time they come back, they can bring their glockenspiel. Go find the guitar.

Next time they come back, they can forget the glockenspiel. All righty, guys. Thanks for coming out.

This was a lot of fun. Our pleasure. Thanks for having us.

We'll see you out there. Thanks. All righty.

Man, that acapella was killer. That was really cool. That was a great idea.

Man, they were hesitant at first, but man, that was pretty cool. Yeah. I mean, they had some great harmonies.

They blew me away. I couldn't believe that. Yeah.

What was that band? Aftermath. I just remember that. All I remember is the acapella.

I don't remember the name of the band. Aftermath is social studies, isn't it? I think so. Yeah.

I think so. Also, what happens after a nuclear explosion. Yeah, that's right.

Or a tsunami or a hurricane or pretty much anything. Yes, as the afternoon. I was like, when we're done with this podcast, there will be an aftermath.

There will be an aftermath. There will be an aftermath. Yes, there will.

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