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Ep 248 Cxpital

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Cxpital is a 3-piece Indie/Alternative Rock band from the region of Northwest Indiana, USA. The band is composed of, drummer Benji Grimler, and lead guitarist Tyler Maximoff; while accompanied by vocalist and rhythm guitarist/bassist Lucie Ashmore, originally from Greystones, Ireland.

After meeting and forming in 2017 under the name WAVES, Ashmore and Maximoff independently recorded and released a 4-track EP titled After // Thoughts, a collection of songs inspired by the lyrical and musical techniques of alternative rock band Pvris. About a year later, the two were introduced to Benji and continued from there as a 3-piece.

Influences range from old-school Coldplay, to the current indie sounds of Paramore, with everything from The Maine, The Aces, Pvris and The Strokes also thrown into the mix.

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Ep 248 Cxpital
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Coming to you from the studios at the Illinois Rock and Roll Museum on Route 66. It's the Rock
and Roll Chicago podcast Hey everybody, it's Ray the roadie and this is bewildered Mike
bewildered. Yeah.
Yeah. Why are you bewildered? I want somebody to explain this to me The people riding
around on these not bicycles not mopeds. Mm-hmm, you know What the heck I mean, what is
that somebody I need somebody to explain that to me because if you're on something That's
not quite a scooter But not quite a bicycle and you can go about 35 miles an hour It's an e-bike,
isn't it? And you choose to go on a street that has a speed limit of 50 miles an hour and then
you start flicking people off when they're tailgating you oh and Somebody explain it.
So so you experience that Multiple times you kidding me where I live Everybody's riding around
on them now like little 16 year old kids are using them as an excuse to ride a motorcycle So that
tells me you don't have to have a motorcycle license because you have to be 18 to get a
motorcycle license, right? So what are these things that they're riding around on? So not only
are you bewildered but I get this feeling that you're bemused and pissed off. Okay Because I
don't like getting screamed at by a 16 year old kid that thinks he's got the right away Did he I
don't think so I mean, you don't have turn signals on this thing Well where I live they just pass
an ordinance about these things like those scooters they stand on your lately band You were
the guy I want to talk to them. So so what's the law? I don't I don't there's three types of those
bikes There's a class one two and three, right? The only one they end allow in my town is a class
one, right? Most of those bikes are twos and threes so I don't know how they're gonna get
basically they're banning them completely in my town because Seems to me like a motorized
bicycle shouldn't be able to go 35 miles per hour true True, and if it does it needs to have turn
signals.
Yeah, and it needs to have brake lights I've got kids by me the riding quads in the street come
flying around the corners Yeah, see we used to get picked up by the cops, you know They would
have to they would get some kind of a flatbed and tow ours or pull it back home Mm-hmm,
bring us home hand us to our parents, you know, we get the orange extension cord across the
back Mentioning that I can feel it Kind of thing and now it's like that's my kid leave him alone.
Exactly. I don't know I'm just I'm just curious what it is because I'm sorry you feel that way you
own one of those Ray You sound like you know a lot about him.
No, no, no I just this is just something new in my town that they I've been reading the
ordinance thing in the Ordinance and stuff to see what it's all about because I don't really
understand them. I don't have one. I don't want one I've got a Harley.
Yeah Yeah, exactly, you know anyways, oh I was just confused I don't know. I mean, I think
those they did, you know, they'd be great candidates for capital punishment Yeah, they could
be you know, unless you spell capital with some kind of stupid letter and it doesn't belong in
there That's right Everyone X and you know, I throw an X in the word capital or something like
sex Patel. Yes Like so that's too much like sex because you'll get a cease and desist Let's
welcome let's welcome happen all capital with an X everybody that's not it what the heck there
you go I Think that was as confusing as the name capital It was so how you guys doing? Good.
Awesome. Yeah, you guys drove a little bit of a ways to get here I I guess a little bit Originally
from where where's home base for you guys? We're kind of we say that we're based out of
Northwest, Indiana because we're kind of all over the place I sound like I'm north from
Northwest, Indiana. So It's a Griffith accent for those that don't know So Benji's from Griffith
Tyler's from st.
John and I was based out of Hammond for a long time I came over here from Ireland to go to
college and so Hammond was my home base for a while. I've since moved into the city within
the last kind of year or so So we just kind of we just say like the region is kind of the best way to
put it or we'll pick It depends on the day. We'll pick a town.
Sometimes it's st. John. Sometimes we're out of Griffith It depends on who's asking if they know
the area will get specific but if not, it's it's best to say vague see Again, confusing.
She's from Ireland. You think she'd be from Highland, Indiana Exactly. No, you're just gonna go
the whole other way.
You know, I'm done. I'm out of here Now I'm bewildered No, I've say guys Listening to your
music. It was an absolute pleasant surprise No It really was because number one I saw three
people and I said, oh great another punk band scratching the same frickin three chords It's
loud as they possibly can.
Oh great. I can't wait to do this podcast. No, but it was it was shockingly good For not knowing
you was shockingly good And it sounds way bigger than just three of you standing there, which
which bodes the question How much of that is is? Production and how well does it translate to a
live performance because that's that I have to I have to find out Well ask Tyler how many guitar
tracks are on every song? mostly guitar probably like 16 tracks guitar.
Yeah. Okay, just a lot of layering. Yeah live it on I just find a way just to make it as wide as
possible 16 tracks maybe how are you finding 16 tracks to put on one song? Well, I'll end up
doubling the guitar for one left one, right? Okay, then it may be a solo Maybe I'll double that so
it could be just so it could be eight tracks just kind of duplicated or yeah Then you throw in all
kinds of you know, I call it monkey cheese You know, look here and look there and yeah things
like that and different types of effects and everything.
Yep. Okay, excellent Who does most of the writing then? Say Lucy. Yeah It kind of depends It's
like the lyrically I would say that like I just like grew up a songwriter So like playing guitars
writing songs like that.
So that kind of side of things it's maybe like Sometimes the instrumentation sometimes that
becomes more of a collective effort We've built songs off of like something that I've sat in a
bedroom and written with a guitar. We've built songs off of Instrumentation or instrumentals
that Tyler's put together and has kind of kept hold away for a couple of years and then brought
out and just been Like oh, I've had this sitting on the back burner Maybe we could do
something with this and then other songs kind of come out of just like We're practicing and
we're jamming and it's like oh go back to that Actually, that sounded kind of good or we'll play a
song for 15 minutes straight Right, we'll have one singular voice memo of it and then every
time forget about it for about a year and then say hey You remember this thing? Oh, yeah, that
was kind of cool Yeah, yeah, yeah, so well, let's go back to the beginning how did this whole
thing first of all Let's go way back to the beginning. When did you come here from Ireland? I
came here in 2015 okay, so I was freshly 18.
I was like two days two days after I turned 18. I Came over on a soccer scholarship. Oh, no, so I
played out one of the satellite campuses of Purdue Northwest, yes.
Yeah, so it was there many artists formerly known as Calumet When I first got there and then
they changed the changed to Northwest about a year in But that's when that's when I got here.
Right, right. Believe it or not I am so familiar with that campus believe it or not.
I designed all of the vacuum systems in the chemistry. Well, hey, yeah I still work there. So the
Hoover's Know Hoover's vacuums.
No scientific vacuum pumps. Oh, yeah might be Hoover that they're cleaning the floor Yeah, I
mean, they all suck. I mean, yeah, they do.
Yeah. Yes, you just they just suck different things. Yeah.
Yeah, you know What's it's like? So you still work this yeah, what do you what do you do there?
Right now I am an assistant director in admissions So I handle a lot of like outreach
communication as most musicians have a communications background if they go to college so I
Do a lot of outreach communication to prospective students I work with a team to just like
design kind of the email campaigns and the different kind of platforms that we're on To make
sure that we're you know Creating a brand and kind of enticing students to come to college
whether they kind of want to or not and then just kind of force it down their throat until they
come To college Force them into that lifelong debt. Yeah, that's right. Just beat him into
submission and here's your piece of paper.
Yeah No, that's interesting. I asked that because you know, we don't talk about a lot. It's kind of
like an unspoken It's an unspoken notion among musicians that just because you are a
musician Doesn't mean that you're not doing something else, you know, we're not all sitting
around at home That's right, you know playing video games and eating Froot Loops and you
know waiting for our phones to Have lives outside of it a little bit real job.
Yeah, and that's an important one. Yeah, okay so 2015 and you You came here in 2015 soccer
scholarship in the whole bit at what point in time or in your lifetime. Do you decide? Okay.
Well, I'm gonna be a musician. I'm gonna start playing music. Oh god Probably when I was like,
I was playing air guitar from like three years old Yeah, and it was a great instrument a great
place.
No practice Acoustic or electric air guitar electric And then when I was I must have been maybe
nine or ten. I got my first electric guitar I wanted to start on electric guitar and my parents were
like, please start on acoustic. We're not ready for an amplifier And so I I got an electric guitar
and started rock guitar lessons because she was a rebel Sticking it to the man.
That's right. Yeah, not like other girls And so I did electric guitar lessons for a couple of years
Walked it back to classical guitar and then somewhere in there was kind of just like fascinated
by Kind of the entertainer side of being a musician. I love to like perform and Would kind of
make up little songs that were like like three notes on the guitar And would make my family
kind of sit down and listen to us very intently so there was always kind of like a buzz for for
performance there and I feel like just watching other musicians and kind of growing up
watching like I Used to just put like the music video channel on I would just sit and watch music
videos all day And I think I just got fascinated by like that performance aspect, too and then
when I was about 15 I did this like it was called song school and it was these two guys in Ireland
had put together kind of this like week-long camp where they would teach you how to write
and record a song It was I think it was in very basic like garage band, right But you would write
and record your own song you would do a music video for us and then at the end of the week,
everybody would kind of have these bands and they would perform kind of like a Just a little
concert for parents and friends So rock-and-roll fantasy camp, yeah Yeah, so just at some point
there along the way just got bit by the bug that like never really Went away, right, right So
when you came here you just decided not to go back to Ireland you graduated from college You
got a job and just decided to stay here.
It was it was a little less of a seamless road Than that. It was went to college got a master's
When you're an international student, you can work for 12 months on a student visa with like
an allowance basically and so I worked for 12 months at a radio station and then Through that
kind of reached the end of that was hoping that the road to kind of Working here on a visa was
gonna be a little bit I naively thought that it was gonna be much easier than it was. I was like,
what's me and half a million other people Applying for the same visa like the chances are so
high Obviously did not get us two years in a row and was kind of panicking.
So the option was either go back to school and you know pursue another degree or Leave and
so I was like, well, I guess I've always liked technology. I guess I'll go get another master's and
so I I got another master's and just started working at the school throughout that master's And
then just a position happened to open up on campus in an area that I was working in at the
time and It's just everything just kind of like fell into place. So right, right.
You're in like the top 1% of musicians I think it's you and Brian May Doctor me. Yeah. Yeah PhD
in astrophysics and just for shits and giggles.
He plays guitar and Queen. That's it Yeah, don't you hate people like that, but he doesn't like
what he doesn't know how to use his pilot pedals He has a guy that does it for him. Does he
yeah guys behind stage and he knows exactly what pedal to hit If you ever look he has no
pedals.
Well, you know, that's you know, most millionaire Guitar players are like that nowadays. They
have them all in a drawer that pulls out and then you got a guy Whatever what his set list
going, you know, can you imagine the pressure? Oh shit. I forgot You had one job that's it one
job Yeah, so how'd you meet these guys in college actually or actually how'd she meet you guys
Well, she met tyler first Through a recording class tyler was also going to school Um, and
they're both older than I am.
I'm the youngest. Uh, he's bragging. Yeah.
Yeah, you know, I mean You you explain it more because you were together for a while before I
met you guys So I was just hanging out at a recording class uh At purdue and I would I would
always just be always be in there and I like always skip my classes and you know and then
eventually I found lucy. She uh She started coming in and then You know just came out from
there. We just started We had this like I said the class Yeah, it kind of came from there.
We just started hanging out in there and we just started writing music We start our first project
in there called waves. Oh, yeah, okay and then uh, we we came out the four song ep And then
eventually We started playing just these little shows me and her And then we're like we really
need a drummer We need to find a drummer and I forgot who found benji Then we found benji
and then we started writing music in my uh old house And then from there we just create our
first single if you talk and then from there it just uh Yeah, now how long have you guys been
together? Oh, yeah Yeah, that was like 2017 I think So I met tyler in 2016. Um, and it was about
a year before We were kind of pointed into the direction of benji We're gonna pause it here for
just a second All right, we're back we thought we had a security breach going on here So we
had to just pause for a cause just for a second.
It turns out it was the ceo Of the and founder hall of fame and founder. Yeah, ron romero
walking in with his band rehearsing. So, okay Um, i'm sorry that that's caught me off guard.
That's that was that's my uh, heightened awareness, you know, it was fight or flight. Yeah So
yeah, so, uh, how so how long has it been you guys have been together since like 2017, I guess.
Um, We met benji kind of in the fall of 2017 and like I think the first meeting that we had You
brought a base You brought your base.
I had had surgery on my hand. So I couldn't play it a thing um attempted to play a little bit of
the base with like I had surgery on my pinky finger. And so the whole thing was kind of encased
and so I had no Yeah dexterity in my right hand.
Uh, I was gonna say because you really only need these two fingers to play. Yeah. Yeah Okay,
this one really nothing.
Yeah. Yeah, it was it was limited for sure Um, and so we sat with like a guitar and a bass and I
think we ended up writing a song We did. Yeah, I think that's how if you talk kind of came about
we kind of just like Threw it together.
And then the week after that We recorded this and then we were like, well, it sounds great just
like Uh, you worked some magic on it. I think that that one is probably our most Produced song
and it was our first song that we ever did and that was my first recording experience ever So I
was nervous as all hell. I remember that the song went something kind of like I can't play
because I broke my pinky That's where it came from.
Yeah Right, right. Okay. Interesting.
So how did the sound uh, I mean You guys are going to play for us i'm assuming right and
we're going to have uh, you know Clips and everything and sound bites and everything when
this comes out. But um Like I said your your sound is kind of was kind of surprising to me. How
did that develop? when we met in uh 2016 at the recording class.
I was listening to a lot of um, One of my favorite bands at that time was a band called paris and
they and this will tell you where the axe came from So paris is spelled p v r i s. Oh, okay See if
there's a connection to an influence, um And they like virus, yes, right I think they had also
received some kind of cease and desist from either a band with the name paris p a r i s or Via
the city in france, who knows it's one of the two, right? I'm, not sure which one so I guess it's up
to whomever to just assume which one. Um but they had just come out with their second
album and it was very Their first album was was rock like they were like they were like a warped
tour band um But there was a lot of like electronic kind of influences in there, too and their
second album was way more rock heavy and just kind of like melodic and Very heavy on reverb
and I think they were did a lot of the recordings in like an old abandoned church So you kind of
got that natural reverb sound on it. Um, which is always the best.
Yeah gorgeous. Yeah Um, so that was a big influence for me at the time. Um You tyler grew up
on a lot of and i'm sure you can kind of You have your own voice.
So i'll let you speak. Um, but on like silver sun pickups and like red hot chili peppers and things
like that Um, I hear it all I I heard it all in the music that I listened to. Yeah Yeah, so we tried to
kind of just blend I think in at that time It was very much At the stage of like, okay Well, how do
we make a song sound like this artist and um, I think we did get stuck on writing a fourth song
And we kind of we actually sat in separate rooms and kind of gave each other like an hour and a
half And we're like, okay, did you come up with anything? No, okay sick.
Neither did I um, and eventually we did catch on to something um But it just kind of was like an
amalgamation of our interests. That was kind of like, okay. Well, we like this sound we weren't
going for like a Paramore or anything like that, but you could definitely tell that there was
maybe a little bit of influence pulled in there um And then it just kind of developed from there
when benji came in I think one of the first things that I remember he texted me was um Like
these are all my interests I like I listened to a lot of king gizzard and the lizard wizard and I had
never heard of them at the time and I went what the hell is he talking about? I was like, what
what kind of music are you about to like? What what influence is about to come in here? Um,
but you had a like a like a police like a like a classic rock background.
Yeah, very much so and um The police was actually my first concert. I ever went to I was like
eight years old. My parents took me There was the last tour they ever did Um, and by no means
is like my drumming style ripped from stewart copeland Um, I just think he's insane, but i'm
very much revisiting them.
Uh in my my 20s now um, that's pretty cool because Uh, my my dad and I talk about all the all
our music tastes are very similar He would like rock me to sleep playing the outlet outlandish
the amor album and i'd be asleep by so lonely Which is like the second track? So like yeah, that's
all coming back because it just bored him to death. Yeah No, you're not holding yourself
responsible for police Not getting back together after you saw him. I could be yeah You know
get some counseling Yeah You know, but You don't have to play exactly like him in order to
steal things from him because it can I I can hear it I heard it in the drums Your touch is what
you get from him.
Thank you I mean, I do a lot of hi-hat rolls. Maybe I get it from him. I don't know.
Yeah Yeah, well, you know what we're sitting here talking about their music. I think it's time to
take a pause for real this time Okay And make sure that there's nobody else breaking in here
and we're going to get them all set up in eq And we're going to hear them live in the studio for
the first time. Okay, we'll be right back.
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we've got capital live in the studio, take it away To lose Falling down Shimmer More decline
show me a sign Thinking this will last Oh Falling down Oh Well, the dudes in the coffee house
love that yeah, they did man, they absolutely loved it Yeah, one of them spilled his coffee all
over my is crazy Very good. Very nice. Thank you.
You know, you guys have uh, you guys have such an eclectic sound you really do there's there's
bits and pieces of different influences I mean, it's unbelievably unique. I'll tell you what I don't
think i've been as surprised by a sound and A long time. Oh, yeah, I think really I expected like a
green day cover band or something No, I actually I prefer that you don't We prefer we prefer
original music on this on this show I think So what was the inspiration behind that one? And
when did you write that one? Where does it fall in? Where does it fall into the the timeline? I
guess that one is probably one of the more recent ones that we've written Um, it's probably still
I say more recent and it's probably still about a year and a bit old and that was one that At the
time I wasn't driving.
I i've only recently gotten my license. I'm gonna admit it to you. Wow The band appreciates that
did they oh they absolutely that's Another another car that's a prerequisite and every every
time you put in the must have own transportation.
That's right. Yes. Yeah So Whenever we would hang out tyler or benji would have to come and
pick me up and it was a whole thing but at the times tyler was dropping me home and we'd
either been just like working on recordings or something but The topic came up of some of the
songs that he had kind of worked on on his own a couple of years prior And he was like, oh i've
got a couple of them on my phone i'll show you um i'll just show you what I have and so he
pulls up this instrumental that is Pretty close to the actual recording.
It's it's it's outside of maybe a couple of things It's note for note exactly what he did a few years
ago um and I don't know what it was, but that day we had had a conversation and It just the
common theme that came up and I think you said it and I actually don't think that you know
this but What one of the things that you kept saying that day was like, oh i'm putting my white
flag up like i've i give up Like i'm throwing in the white flag. Like that's it And you were showing
me so we were sitting in the car on the way home he was playing this instrumental and it It
wasn't that I thought anything of it. It was I I could already hear the melodies in my head I got
home He dropped me off and I want to say he was 15 minutes back into his drive and I was like
here's a verse And of course, um, it just it was so like it just flew out of me um And I call it the
toilet paper.
It's the toilet paper roll incident Everybody has that story where you you write a song on the roll
of toilet paper while you're in the bathroom And it's done in 10 minutes. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, it literally was. Um, And I think I I sent him a verse and a chorus And I think probably
wrote the rest of the song in you know, lyrically in probably an hour. Um, And then I don't I
don't know if we then took it to you It probably came up like a the next time that we practiced
or something it was like a oh well Tyler sent me this instrumental and I sent this back and now
let's Try and figure it out and play it.
Um, and then We recently have been trying to do a lot more home recordings because
recording in studios is expensive. Um, and We have kind of the capabilities and the knowledge,
um, and some of the infrastructure So we've been trying to do a lot more of home recordings
and that was one that we were like, you know What if we're going to be serious about these
home recordings? We should just like bite the bullet start doing it. And that was one of the ones
recently that we just recorded so that one is Um famously in like small band fashion is coming
out soon and that could mean now we're in like five years time Um, but it is ready to go.
It just needs some cover art and we're gonna We'll we'll set that up to to go out. Is that the
wave of the future? Like a home recording is I think so. Yeah How come? I I mean I can speak to
it from a probably like a social media standpoint of just like the influx of social media artists and
like when the pandemic happened like so many artists came out of like tiktok and Platforms like
that that were doing everything from their bedrooms And so they're I mean, there's the subgenre
of pop which is bedroom pop um, and you know, so a lot of artists kind of were born in
their own homes and so Now more and more I think you see a lot of people producing their
own stuff um or setting up their own home studios because I think it's it's not just like invest it's
investing in a passion and a craft, but I think they've also found a way to also be like Well, if i'm
a producer and I can do it out of my home, I can also monetize it and you know It becomes a
side project then so um from from a social media standpoint, that's where I can see it Um, I
don't know if either of you two have a more kind of concrete answer as to like the musicality of
it I think maybe convenience for sure just having your studio right there and then you just pop
out a song really quick and upload it or whatever, but uh I just think it uh expedites creativity
too.
You get right there And you don't have the pressure of the studio Trying to get everything right
you can take your time a little better, but you can also craft it in a way that What you want to
sound like You know ray and I are are older than you guys i'm just guessing i'm just i'm just
guessing Yeah, it's news to me. I'm just i'm just guessing probably old enough to be your
fathers But um, uh, you know, we we can testify that Everything is kind of coming full circle to
an extent Because when you started talking when you start talking about the mid to late 50s
Um, that's the way people were doing this, you know uh, you know producers would show up
with a tape recorder and a suitcase and you'd go find the local church and You'd have a guy
play acoustic guitar and you'd record them or you'd put a band in there and you literally Would
record them in a church With a reel-to-reel tape recorder and one microphone and that's how
you got the recordings And everything evolved to the point where it kind of is now where
record companies kind of own everything and everyone, right? Well, how does an artist?
Combat that right, you know combat combat. I don't know.
Where's where are we gonna? I think I put that benji's an english teacher. So he'll he'll correct
you I probably put I probably put the wrong accent on the wrong syllable is what I did Right
there. I think so.
Yeah, but um, I mean the only way to um to go against the grain smart ass is to uh Probably
take control of it again with your own artistic endeavors, you know Do it in the bedroom or
yeah on the dining room table now, we're still talking about music music. Yes. We are talking
about music You can still keep the kids in the room with you.
Yeah, but you know, I guess as long as it doesn't become too electronic because yeah, you
know real musicians such as yourselves, I mean And and I as well I get a little pissed off when I
hear about people who have no musical talent whatsoever creating A top 40 hits. Yeah, you
know I have a friend that I work with Can't sing at all Loves to come out and see my band play
right and can't sing and he said hey, I downloaded this app and I was okay Great. What's the
app and he goes it's this ai voice app and i'm like, okay great What did you do? And he says all I
had to do was he was all I did was was Read these song lyrics in my own voice and he has
literally read the song lyrics They matched it up with the song and he sent it to me and it
sounded like he's singing you hear his voice singing It was like that is so unfair.
Yeah You know anybody's going to be able to create a song with ai and it's just I don't know
when once everybody can do it. It's not special. You're not an artist.
Yeah. Yeah Yeah, you're phony as we are. Yeah, that's right.
This is emotion too like the ai can't capture like the emotionality of What the songs or what the
experiences that the songs convey right it but it'll you know, I think commercially Ai songs
seems like the net like it does unfortunately seem where we're like We'll probably hear it in a
ford commercial or we'll probably hear it You know like something to do with like the
superbowl Um, right they'll be like we used ai to generate this like superbowl halftime show.
Um, So from a commercial standpoint, they're going yeah big bucks like they're thinking they're
only thinking with their wallets um but I think the artists are going to be the ones that really get
like Hurt by it and they'll kind of be I think it'll be downplayed by everybody else When artists
kind of come forward and say like well, it's lacking emotion. It's lacking experience and it's
lacking depth um, the Bystanders can like well, it's a good song.
Yeah Stop crying about it. You can do it too. Yeah.
Yeah, but I mean, but you're absolutely right Think about the millions and millions of dollars
that people are going to save if you don't have this If you don't have to pay john tesh a million
dollars to write a 15 second Uh, you know blurb for the uh for the superbowl halftime show or
something like that I mean, you know think about the millions of dollars you're going to save
but Anyways, I I guess we'll get off of our soapbox now. Okay. Yeah, don't fall.
I want to hear another song I do too. Yeah, we're all setting ready to go. I think you guys should
just slam into one for us.
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heart i'm so close in your mind I cross my heart. I'm so close in your mind even after all this
Baby i'll make my bed Come on I made my bed away.
I made my bed away Yeah, I was gonna hit the applause button, but That was that was good.
Just the way it ended. Yeah, it was.
Yeah, very nice Have you guys have you guys ever seen or heard of the movie called begin
again? Yeah, yeah, i've heard of it. Yeah. Have you seen it? I haven't seen it, but i've heard you
guys.
Okay Band outing, okay One of you guys has to find where you can stream it Right and watch
the movie because you guys sound like you could have written the soundtrack to that movie
Oh, and it's actually one of my favorite like performance movies. It stars kira knightley and
mark ruffalo And he plays a washed up record producer. He gets kicked out of his own record
company And uh, kira knightley is just this songwriter that he finds in new york city and he
wants to record her But nobody will give him the time of day because he's got an alcohol and
drug problem, right? so they just decide what the hell we're gonna set up a recording council in
the trunk of my Falling apart bmw and we're gonna drive around new york city and we're just
gonna Set up on this park bench and we're gonna record this music and we're gonna hire
different musicians like street musicians that we see Along the way if a cop car whizzes by with
its sirens on it's in the recording kids playing basketball in the background It's in the recording.
It just it is what it is, right? And the stuff that you guys write sound like that soundtrack you
should listen to it Okay, and then take that idea and record a song like that Okay Because it's
it's really cool. It's really cool movie. You guys should I should check it out But speaking of
performing you guys have some dates coming up.
Yeah, because I can't believe it's already august 12th. Yeah, I know I know. Yeah, that's right
What do you guys have coming up? Uh, well this weekend we are we're playing some bar gigs
So we do kind of a couple of you know cover sets here and there and so this weekend we're in
indiana Um, we're at buddy and pals and crown points on saturday um And the sunday we're at
john's place In griffith.
Okay. I've been to john's place many times. So it's a one I actually I actually have a very old
friend and and uh, I consider them to be family They they actually do live in griffith.
So i've gone to john i've been to griffith many times you've gone to the john I've gone to john.
Yeah, i've gone to the john in griffith. Oh, whoa.
Yeah You got me on that one. Yeah, that's right. That's right.
Yeah, i'm actually very familiar with griffith So that's pretty cool. John's place. Okay, anything,
uh outside of bar gigs you guys doing any theater type gigs or anything like that? We we've
done a couple of um, it's kind of one of those things that like once the summer creeps along
um, we're like oh now is the time that like, you know, like I said benji's a A primary school
english teacher or middle school.
Sorry, um middle school english teacher Um, and so he kind of has a little bit more freedom in
the summer Um, and so we're kind of like okay. We gotta for lack of better words We gotta
capitalize on this and uh play some gigs in chicago and get out there And so we did a couple of
um a couple of gigs. Um, But it's I with both the guys living in indiana kind of the commute can
sometimes kill us a little bit Uh, and it's also I think it's also a lack of product Uh being
productive about it, too It's kind of like well like oh we gotta we gotta get more gigs in the city
We gotta get more gigs in the city and then august is here and we're like, oh my god We never
got the gigs in the city.
Um So and obviously music kind of exists outside of the summer It just becomes a little bit
more feasible for us to do it in the summer. Um So it's definitely on the cards. Um, I think we
just kind of have to bite the bullet do it.
I think Someone was maybe mentioning before this about like if I just had somebody to run my
social media Like I would be dangerous like that would be great Um, we're kind of the same
way like if we just had somebody to book the gigs for us We would be set We just have to get to
a place where we can get someone to book the gigs for us and that means having to book the
gigs are uh so um So yeah, we've got like bar gigs here and there and then the occasional um
original stuff but like we we try to post about it all over our social media as much as we can, um,
To get the and the social media is that's capital official. It's cxp ital official There's no x in official
official is the way that it's spelled. Um But it's facebook twitter instagram, um, and then we're
on you know A couple of videos on tiktok and all of that because you have to be right.
Um But yeah capital official everywhere. Excellent. Excellent.
Go out and see these guys. Yeah, definitely Definitely, I think you'll uh, you'll be amazed. Yeah, I
wish I had the time to go out and see them.
Yeah But I would definitely like to see he's booked Yeah, absolutely Alrighty guys, thanks for
coming out. Appreciate it. Great.
It's been nice having you nice meeting you Thanks. Thanks. The rock and roll chicago podcast is
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